8th Ed. Returning Player: What next? Specifically and in General?

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  1. Stegadeth
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    Hey guys! Long time no see. I ended up going to nursing school and have been away a while. Last week I finally finished assembling all of the miniatures I had on hand and was wondering what I should look at buying next. My end goal is having a large pool of models from which to pick and choose to utilize all facets of a Lizardmen army in varying builds. I mostly played against Warriors of Chaos in the past and my most frequent opponent has Chaos and Greenskins galore.

    Currently I have on hand:
    1 Slann
    1 Scar Vet/Old Blood on Cold One
    1 Tiktaq'to on Zwup
    3 Terradon Riders
    3 Stegadons (haven't built howdahs yet but am leaning toward one of each setup currently, thoughts?)
    3 Salamander with 9 skink crew
    4 ghetto Jungle Swarms with leftover snakes from CoR kits
    15 Skink cohort carrying javelin, hand weapons and shield with converted Full Command, not that it is necessary
    16 Cold One Riders with Full Command x 3
    20 Temple Guard with Full Command and a single model sufficient to play a Scar Veteran
    37 Skinks with Blowpipe with 1 Patrol Leader
    68 Saurus Warriors with Full Command x 2 (thinking of making one more command unit, input?)
    This weighs in at 3622 Total with everything naked, no command, no armor/shield/weapon upgrades, no banners, no magic items except for the Engine of the Gods, which I can proxy as not being there in my games since I don't do tournaments or worry about strict WYSIWYG so completely naked at 3572 total.

    Obviously, I picked up the 8th edition Lizardmen Army Book to get some ideas and cover the new rules. I was considering a Skink Regiment box to model them all javelin and shield just to have that option available so it is less confusing on the table. I know I want the Carnosaur model. I was thinking one more Salamander would be a boon so I could split them up with two on each flank. I am very shy on Skink leadership (worrying about Predatory Fighter Frenzy, but should I?), so I was planning on at least one Skink Priest model, perhaps two and for Chiefs, since it seems the old sets are sold out, I was considering a few conversions.

    Those I am pretty solid on. What comes next is where I need the most purchasing advice, especially as far as prioritizing purchases based on bang for the buck: Bastilladon is a neat model and would add another monstrous target in high point games and monster mash lists. Is it really worth it, though? Do they work better if you can place two near each other or one each out on your flanks?

    Are Kroxigor worth it anymore? Some of my recent readings have indicated that perhaps Skrox Blocks are on the way out as far as a solid unit and might just be a semi-decent tarpit unit. I love the models and do eventually want at least one box just for the option of using them, but at $50 for three I am unsure if I should make it a priority or not. Are they better in a unit of greater than three making purchasing two boxes a better deal?

    Troglodon looks good and gives me the divining rod for some extra points, but I have no idea how I would play this guy. Is he a big redirect that also serves as a cannonball magnet?

    I am considering adding a second Slann to my army simply because it is so large at this point and some big games sound like fun now and again. Is double Slann still cheesy?

    Finally, are Ripperdactyls worth it? The model kit is pretty cool, though I hate the underbite, but what can you do? Are they the Razordons of flying monstrous cavalry?

    Whew, long post, right? I appreciate all input, good, bad and ugly. If you think I should change some numbers around, say so! If you think I am coming at this from the wrong direction, please say so. Of course, it helps me way more if you explain why you would make your choices. Thank you so much in advance for your kind input. I feel like a newb again, which is kind of cool. Hope your Christmas/Holiday season was a good and peaceful one and may your New Year be filled with much joy and many tablings of armies unscaled!
     
  2. Stegadeth
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    Re: Returning Player: What next? Specifically and in General

    I went to my LGS today and they had a Bastiladon kit, so I picked it up. I am definitely adding the 24 skink box set up as javelin and shield, 1 box of Ripperdactyls and picking up my first Carnosaur model. I'd like to add Lord Kroak to have a second Slann (either proxying him as a regular Slann or just using him) for high point games. Those models would bring me to 4900 points completely naked. I'll be adding some skink priests via conversion and the newer resin kit and was thinking about a second cowboy.

    Other thoughts? 2nd Bastiladon worth it? Some Old Bloods or Scar Vets on foot? More Temple Guard for the second Slann? Chameleon Skinks might be neat, but they are costly for the models, considering one has to purchase at least two boxes. $50 for a single 6 skink unit sounds like a lot of money for -1 to hit from shooting and +1 BS and scouting. Do they pay for themselves over regular skink skirmishers?
     
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    Re: Returning Player: What next? Specifically and in General

    OK. I placed an order today for 2 skink warriors boxes, 1 battalion box, 1 terradon box and 1 Tetto'eko. This will allow me to roll out 10 new TG, 20 more Saurus, give me a total of 50 skinks with blowpipes and 50 with javelin and shield and to convert some skinks into Chameleons for a total of 10-12 of those as well as making a few more cowboy models with the addition of 5 normal CoR.

    Yes, I am considering the CoR Bus for competition play. We'll see how it goes!
     
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    Re: Returning Player: What next? Specifically and in General

    Looks like you have almost everything that you could want to play. I would suggest getting some salamanders they can be fun... Other than that there isn't anything else that you don't really have. I picked up a carnosaur because I loved the kit, but He probably won't see the table very often; that's pretty much how I feel about the trog. Better to pass on it for now and get more competitive units.
     

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