8th Ed. some vampire questions

[forlustria]

Ok so i got a few vampire questions.

a vampire with infinate hatred and red fury does he get hatred on the red fury attacks?

the nest question is similar and is about Conrad. lets say Conrad is frenzied so has 5 attacks he hits with all due to infinate hated. He causes 4 wounds that are not saved . Now his sword causes 2 wounds for every wound not saved so that would make 8 wounds. Does he now get 8 attacks due to red fury or just the 4 from the original?

sorry if its confusing just think hes overpowered for his point cost.

 

[forlustria]

Scrap that I just found out somthing interesting that makes konrad less effective against kroxigor.

Konrad (frenzied) attacks krox unit 5 attacks does 3 wounds after saves this does not double to 6 wounds as no model can suffer more wounds then on his profile. so only 3 red fury attacks not 6.

let me explain against normal rank and file with 1 wound if he does 5 wounds these do not double as RNK only have a wound each. Well it works the same for MI only they have 3 wounds. So aslong as he only inflicts 3 wounds or less he wont get any extra red fury attacks.

 

[cyanhawk]

Vampires are my second army.

For your first question you get hatred on every attack the vampire makes.

I don't believe that last post is exactly true. If 3 unsaved wounds got through to the unit the first krox would take 2 of the 3. One wound would double this would kill the first Krox. The next krox would take the last wound doubled to 2 and would have one wound left. Over all that would be 5 wounds and 5 more hatred fueled attacks from Konrad.

If its a skink-krox unit that changes everything. Now all 3 unsaved wounds would go against a skink. Since skinks only have 1 wound that would just be 3 bonus attacks.

Konrad is made to kill characters and monsters, but his ability is severely reduced against line infantry. Add that to the fact that he doesn't count as a wizard so he cant reinforce his troops on his own and Konrad loses some luster.