8th Ed. Temple Guard Shield

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  1. prisoner24602
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    Hey, so I've been going over the rules a bit recently, and I came across a bit of a puzzle. Why do the Temple Guard have a shield if a halberd has to be used with two hands. If someone knows the answer, please enlighten me.
     
  2. The Hunted
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    It's simple though genius: missile attacks. A shield still provides an extra +1 to armour save vs ranged attacks.

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  3. prisoner24602
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    Fair enough. I guess that makes a lot of heavy ranged armies sad.
     
  4. Jimmy2Saints
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    Shields actually give +1 armour in close combat aswell.
     
  5. The Red Devil
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    Not for temple guards as they wield halberds.
     
  6. Jimmy2Saints
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    Yes, no matter what they wield they get the +1 armour from shields. Just not the 6+ parry save.
     
  7. MarchoftheStegs
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    No they don't a hand is required to use a shield you don't have one free. Otherwise nurgle warriors would become damn near unkillable.
     
  8. Jimmy2Saints
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    I must be missing something. The rules on shields seems pretty clear on p43 (complemented by rules on hand weapons and shield on p88).

    I can not find any rule stating that you need a free hand to carry the shield to get the +1 armour in close combat, nor can i see nothing even remotely saying anything about the +1 armour only counting for shooting. In fact, I can not find anything that would even hint that the +1 armour does not count in close combat.

    Can you please point me to rules clarifying this?
     
  9. Jimmy2Saints
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    Ah, I see what I'm missing now. The "requires two hands" rule clarifies this. And its also very explicit in the FAQ:

    "Close Combat
    Q: Does a model with a shield get the armour save bonus in combat
    if it can’t use it? For example it is using a weapon that requires two
    hands? (p43)"

    My misstake! Now I learned something new!
     

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