7th Ed. Units/ tactics/ lists you have been called cheese over

Hi all,

Thought it'd be interesting to build a topic where we can discuss units, tactics, lists or other Lizardy things our opponents whinge about or rules opponents try to quibble or exploit.

If we can compare notes on the complaints made against us we may hopefully be able to come up with reasons for unit choices being feasible and try to beat back the rules lawyers and cheese cryers that seem to be making an unfortunate appearance in tourneys and even local gaming communities these days.

An idea of the lists playing in the game the opponent whinged (ie roughly what you took, roughly what they took) would be handy when posting, to tell any feasible points of concern from cheese crying hypocrites who don't manage to massacre you with their magic heavy VC Deathstar or the like.

Also a good chance to have a little bit of a vent and help other Lizzie lovers to avoid similar problems.

 

Yea my brother plays high elves and has serious problems facing my various armies. Even when I have a totally balanced list with no big deathstars at all and manage to kill his highborn with the re-roll armour save and the 4+ ward save riding atop his ridiculous emperor dragon (star dragon?) lol.

A few weeks back I was in a tournament and was going up against this super magic heavy vampire army and the guy was so bent out of shape by the last round from losing so terribly he just quit the game like a total sour puss, then proceeded to torture his next opponent with his terrible attitude.

In my local gaming club we see alot of lizardmen and noone really complains except when this guy brought Kroak one tournament. Other than that ive see people bring multiple EoTG's and balls to the wall slann priests but they never have done so well as to actually win any tournaments.

 

Hello, been a long time lurker but figured I'd jump into this one.

I've never had the cheese flag called on me, but we had a fantasy league at my gaming store in Spring and the other lizards player brought a stegadon heavy list. It started out at 1500pts and then every week increased by 250pt until the final game of 2500. He started with 5 stegadons and 2 units of 10 skinks, and with each 250 increase he basically just added another stegadon. By the end of the league he was running ~8 and little else in the army. He stomped everyone by winning the league with 36 pts (you got 4 per massacre 3 per solid vic, and so on) The second place player had 21 pts with his WoC army.

And then there was me... with 12

 

I have been called cheesy over my salamander tactics, if you havn't had a chance to read them, i posted it in this topic http://www.lustria-online.com/threads/salamander-tactica.1942/ its toward the bottom, kinda long but worth the read.

 

People don't like Salamanders. Or my cold one riders for that matter.
Enough said.

Cheers!

 

People just annoy me. There are far worst things out there than Salamanders. In the right hands Sallies can rape blocks of infrantry, used wrong and its free VP for the enemy. Sallies need a finesse, you cant charge them straight forward and expect them to work like alot of things out there, Grail Knights, Bloodthirsters etc...

 

and one of the worst things is that those who cry cheese the loudest are normally running either rock-paper-scissors armies which we happen to be able to counter or else lists that reek of swiss themselves

 

There is only one thing that my oppnents call chesse on, Cold Blooded.

 

I've never heard that one before. That's funny as hell.

 

i had played a thousand point game last week against wood elves, i'll eventually post a report, but in short i won with a massacre, with a skink army! he made three comments at the end, "i've never met an opponent who could use the terrain more to his advantage, "i can't flank anything, and when charging meet a hail of poison darts," every charge i took at least on casualty on stand and shoot, most times more, and lots of skirmishers, "and i really don't like cold blooded." i had passed every single test even when i lost combat.

camo-skink

 

SKINK POWER!!!

fun with colors

 

YOU KNOW IT!!!

you're right it is fun!

 

http://atlantis.sverok.net/WPS/RT_WPS_Comp.pdf

Is apparently one of the ways used to determine comp, its relevant to the current book, so may be a good guideline?

 

With armies like VC why do they even bother with Comp anymore...

 

As for the cold blooded thing...

My friends did notify me once that "You know, you can just rush in everywhere and stay with your lizards... You can't count on breaking these sons of bitches."

COLD BLOODED



Ye... It is fun to play with colours...
Hmm...
Actually, it's quite funky, into sig it goes.

Cheers!

 

People complain too much cause they dont know how to utilize the mechanics of the game. A VC army will walk all over Lizards because we aren't immune to fear unless we gear ourselves against it. Even on 3 dice, getting insane courage to hold against fear causing Skellies or Zombies is hard to do. Against such armies, i just stick Scar Vets on Cold Ones to make them immune. A careless Lizardman player can find himself in quit a pickle if he's not concsious of FEAR and TERROR.

 

16/216 chance of double ones, so roughly 7.4%. Did that in my head right now, am feeling really clever about myself.

 

1 in 36. 6 times 6. (chances of double 1)

 

3 dice mate

my head > your calculator

 

LOL, Dumbledore's math-hammer impresses even the Old Ones