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AoS Bastiladon's MW save

Discussion in 'Rules Help' started by Xasto, Nov 15, 2017.

  1. Xasto
    Terradon

    Xasto Well-Known Member

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    Hey y'all,

    Was wondering if the reroll failed save rolls also apply to the Basti's MW save of 4+?

    Let's say that the bastiladon has been the target of the Skink Priest's Celestial Rite (If I do remember correctly the name), does the reroll to failed saves only apply to his normal 3+ wound save or does that extend to his MW save as well?
     
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  2. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    The rule says "save rolls" so MW should be covered as it is still a "save roll" for that unit.
     
  3. Xasto
    Terradon

    Xasto Well-Known Member

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    That is what I thought and what was accepted in my group of friends, as this is what seems to make the most sense too!
    Makes you really think about how sturdy a Basti + Skink Priest combo can be!
     
  4. Solaris
    Skink

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    No, it doesn't apply! A save roll is specifically a roll that is governed by the "Save" characteristic on a units warscroll. Impervious Defense is an ability, and so is not affected by Celestial Rites.
     
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    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    I agree. It is a roll that happens to have a defensive purpose, but it is not a save.

    Edit: but then if you got away with it....;):angelic:
     
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    Slann

    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

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    I would add that also in the text, the ability to ignore MW is not described as a save...
     
  7. Xasto
    Terradon

    Xasto Well-Known Member

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    Ah well I guess it was too good to be true!
     
  8. Robertxtrem
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    If it said "You may make a 4+ save roll against mortal wounds" then it would allow rerolls but it doesn't use the word save in the ability.
     
  9. Soul Zenmuron
    Skink

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    You can still save them with insights from Kroak or Starseer
     
  10. Canas
    Slann

    Canas Ninth Spawning

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    It depends on if it's called a save roll on the warscroll or not. however since it says "when suffering a mortal wound on a roll of 4+ it's ignored" it does not mention it is a save-roll. It's an ability completly seperate from saves.
     
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    Stegadon

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    Yep it is as @Canas says but Curse of Fate + Kroak dice can still affect it
     

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