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The Random Thread of Random Randomness

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NIGHTBRINGER said:
Thoughts @Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl

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I heard about this a while back, and though I'm a PC man myself, I still give the PlayStation fanbase my full support on this. What's the point in collecting just a case with artwork on, when said case will likely at best just contain a code that you only need to use once to install a game and then throw away?

People like collecting the physical discs of games to use again and again (as the petition shows), because there is a tactile feeling of holding that disc in your hands and putting it into the console/computer to load up the game that encourages you to feel like it's your copy of the game. It's a mark of ownership, and also of authenticity - a physical statement that you've bought the game legally, as opposed to pirating it online.

I'm not sure if PlayStation games prior to GTA 6 still required an internet connection to play and update even with a disc (I wouldn't be surprised), but certainly in the case of older games that do not (as per 95% of the PC games I enjoy), having a physical disc was also a means to allow you to play the game even if the developers had folded or if development for the game in question had ceased in favour of newer titles or different projects - that copy of the game, on its disc, was yours forever to play to your heart's content, running purely on the code saved onto the disc and installed on your PC or console, and at no risk of being messed up by updates that do more harm than good, or the developers giving up on the game or on development in general. This same principle applies to DVDs and Blu-Rays VS streaming... your copy of the film or TV series on disc is yours to watch whenever you like, and cannot be mucked around with or deleted at the streaming companies' behest.

Not to mention how a physical disc, for a game or a media production, minimises dependency on the Internet... if your broadband dies or is rubbish, your entertainment is unaffected - as opposed to a game linked to a server or a show being hosted by a streaming service that will be continually interrupted by dodgy broadband. On top of that, abandoning physical devices will have to force many people to openly invest in better broadband purely to continue enjoying their favourite games and media, which is another cost burden to keep in mind.

Of course if you're an Internet geek with the money to spend on perfect broadband and an innate preference to do everything by Internet, that's up to you, and the choice to download a game or film off the Internet should certainly remain an option... but not at the expense of physical media, or those who prefer it. The freedom of choice must always prevail.

Honestly, the gradual attempts to erase physical media everywhere, and to enforce a technocracy where the only choice of doing something is via the Internet are becoming more and more widespread, and digitising games is just one arm of this disturbing trend. Streaming trying to force out DVDs and Blu-Rays, bank branches closing to force customers to use online methods, shops closing because online shopping outcompetes it, businesses trying to enforce card or contactless-based payments over cash. All of this is done by companies and institutions in the pursuit of making things cheaper (so they can expend less money and effort in manufacturing and maintenance), no doubt so that profit for upper echelons can be maximised, and to maximise the control they can exert upon customers. Yet they are either too blind or too greedy to see what this is doing to society - forcing dependence upon the Internet, putting vital services and citizens' pleasure alike at greater risk of disruption if said Internet goes down, and at greater risk of attack through cybercrime. Not to mention excluding those who are elderly or otherwise incapable of understanding the methods of modern-day tech. And of course, the worst thing is that many people blindly walk into the trap, embracing the 'convenience' or 'flashiness' of the new methods - wholesale ditching cash for cards, using online banking and shopping rather then getting out into the real world, getting rid of CDs and DVDs and paying subscriptions to streaming services. It's these people who are encouraging the companies to keep doing this, making them think that it's acceptable to scrap the old methods, without thinking (or refusing to think) just how many still use them and prefer them.

Yet I'm glad to see that there are those in the PlayStation community who are not like that, and are beginning the fightback... standing together against the encroaching technocracy, and requesting the maintenance of freedom of choice through their petition.

Keep it up, and may that figure of 30,000 continue to grow!
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
I heard about this a while back, and though I'm a PC man myself, I still give the PlayStation fanbase my full support on this. What's the point in collecting just a case with artwork on, when said case will likely at best just contain a code that you only need to use once to install a game and then throw away?

People like collecting the physical discs of games to use again and again (as the petition shows), because there is a tactile feeling of holding that disc in your hands and putting it into the console/computer to load up the game that encourages you to feel like it's your copy of the game. It's a mark of ownership, and also of authenticity - a physical statement that you've bought the game legally, as opposed to pirating it online.

I'm not sure if PlayStation games prior to GTA 6 still required an internet connection to play and update even with a disc (I wouldn't be surprised), but certainly in the case of older games that do not (as per 95% of the PC games I enjoy), having a physical disc was also a means to allow you to play the game even if the developers had folded or if development for the game in question had ceased in favour of newer titles or different projects - that copy of the game, on its disc, was yours forever to play to your heart's content, running purely on the code saved onto the disc and installed on your PC or console, and at no risk of being messed up by updates that do more harm than good, or the developers giving up on the game or on development in general. This same principle applies to DVDs and Blu-Rays VS streaming... your copy of the film or TV series on disc is yours to watch whenever you like, and cannot be mucked around with or deleted at the streaming companies' behest.

Not to mention how a physical disc, for a game or a media production, minimises dependency on the Internet... if your broadband dies or is rubbish, your entertainment is unaffected - as opposed to a game linked to a server or a show being hosted by a streaming service that will be continually interrupted by dodgy broadband. On top of that, abandoning physical devices will have to force many people to openly invest in better broadband purely to continue enjoying their favourite games and media, which is another cost burden to keep in mind.

Of course if you're an Internet geek with the money to spend on perfect broadband and an innate preference to do everything by Internet, that's up to you, and the choice to download a game or film off the Internet should certainly remain an option... but not at the expense of physical media, or those who prefer it. The freedom of choice must always prevail.

Honestly, the gradual attempts to erase physical media everywhere, and to enforce a technocracy where the only choice of doing something is via the Internet are becoming more and more widespread, and digitising games is just one arm of this disturbing trend. Streaming trying to force out DVDs and Blu-Rays, bank branches closing to force customers to use online methods, shops closing because online shopping outcompetes it, businesses trying to enforce card or contactless-based payments over cash. All of this is done by companies and institutions in the pursuit of making things cheaper (so they can expend less money and effort in manufacturing and maintenance), no doubt so that profit for upper echelons can be maximised, and to maximise the control they can exert upon customers. Yet they are either too blind or too greedy to see what this is doing to society - forcing dependence upon the Internet, putting vital services and citizens' pleasure alike at greater risk of disruption if said Internet goes down, and at greater risk of attack through cybercrime. Not to mention excluding those who are elderly or otherwise incapable of understanding the methods of modern-day tech. And of course, the worst thing is that many people blindly walk into the trap, embracing the 'convenience' or 'flashiness' of the new methods - wholesale ditching cash for cards, using online banking and shopping rather then getting out into the real world, getting rid of CDs and DVDs and paying subscriptions to streaming services. It's these people who are encouraging the companies to keep doing this, making them think that it's acceptable to scrap the old methods, without thinking (or refusing to think) just how many still use them and prefer them.

Yet I'm glad to see that there are those in the PlayStation community who are not like that, and are beginning the fightback... standing together against the encroaching technocracy, and requesting the maintenance of freedom of choice through their petition.

Keep it up, and may that figure of 30,000 continue to grow!
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A friend of mine works in IT, he is smarter than I ever will be when it comes to technology. He has banned social media in his house and has been very serious about being careful in general with internet information. Then he bought an alexa... make it make sense. I'm limited in my tech use as I find it makes me dumber as I become more dependent on it if I use it a lot. It's useful but it needs to be kept in its place as a convenient tool and not a replacement for actual thinking. Final note on physical copies, we've already seen that companies will edit their online copies of their movies. Why would we not want to avoid that? Its a slippery slope when people start editing the past when it becomes "problematic " to current politics.
 
Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
Keep it up, and may that figure of 30,000 continue to grow!
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Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl said:
Yet I'm glad to see that there are those in the PlayStation community who are not like that, and are beginning the fightback... standing together against the encroaching technocracy, and requesting the maintenance of freedom of choice through their petition.
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It backfired on Xbox the last time around with the Xbox One. They had to change course. We'll see if the same is true for Playstation.
 
Killer Angel said:
If you own a physical game, how could they squeeze more money from you?
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They should be careful with their unchecked greed. Because there is a growing sentiment that if buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
They should be careful with their unchecked greed. Because there is a growing sentiment that if buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing.
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I've heard way too many people saying that recently. It started with minis and now I've heard way too many talk about sailing the seven seas.
 
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