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KoW 1000p Tag team

Discussion in 'Salamanders Army Lists' started by Renaleika, Jul 21, 2018.

  1. Renaleika
    Jungle Swarm

    Renaleika New Member

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    There is this doubles turnament coming up, and I have no idea what I am doing.
    the Idea is; the two of us deploy together to fight two others at the same time With standard rules.
    I am teaming With Ratfolk in a double tournament who look something like this;

    Horde of Shock Troops
    Horde of Shock Troops

    Artilery
    Shredder

    Death Engine w/vile Sorcery

    Warlock w/Wind Blast
    Swarmcrier

    I am pretty much in charge, as my partner only has had one test mach w/me, altho I have only played Three matches in one turnament sooo… I need feedback :p
    I was thinking of switching one Shock Troop for a horde of Brutes to add Bane Chant and Mount to the warlock and a couple items.

    My list is
    Horde of Primes
    Horde of Primes
    Komodon (To protect his War-Machines)
    Clan Lord on Fire Drake W/Wings
    Ghekkotah Skylord

    or

    Horde of Primes
    Horde of Ancients on Rhinos
    Fire Drake
    Clan Lord on Fire Drake W/Wings and Blessing of the Gods(Elite)

    I worry the first list do not have enough punch, but I like having two flyers to go behind and the Komodon as a bodyguard for the poor War-machines
    The second list however hits hard, but has less bodies on the ground

    Any feedback or comments are apreciated :)
     
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  2. Itepixcauh
    Bastiladon

    Itepixcauh Stranded Ghekkotah Staff Member

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    Regarding the Ratkin lists number one is just better, don't change the Shocktroops, they are probably the best Infantry in the whole game.

    Only possible change I would make is to take out the shredder and the Artillery for three Regiments of Slaves. You can't go wrong with Slaves, they are amazingly cheap.

    I also like list one better for the Salamanders as well. Really nice list, I would change the Komodon for a Lekelidon though, so much better and use the remaining 30 points for a Brew of Strength on a Horde of Primes or the Blade of the Beast-Slayer on the Skylord and some random 10 point item.
     
  3. Rapax
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    If your teammate brings two hordes of Shock Troops you don't need to take two hordes of Primes. Collectively, they will take up too much board space. What you need is some speed and some punch. Ancients on Rhinosaurs are exactly that. If you can find points for the Brew of Haste, it will benefit them greatly. Or you can give them even more punch by moving the Blessing of the Gods to them.

    Also, you don't have any real chaff. That is a huge faux pas in my book. You could exchange the Fire Drake for two Lekelidons, which could serve that role, while not sacrificing the shooting part completely. And their longer range and piercing means that it is possible for them to actually do more damage than the Fire Drake would have done anyway.

    For your friend's list, the only change I would recommend is to get rid of the Wind blast and use the points for something useful. Anything, really, is better than Wind blast. It is extremely situational, and in the few occurrences where it could make a difference it is easily countered by your opponent.
     
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  4. Renaleika
    Jungle Swarm

    Renaleika New Member

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    Sooo… two opposing viewpoints in two posts.

    I recognise the bennefit of slaves, but I thought the war-macines would be better With the large amount of infantry.
    I did however make an alternate list With slaves for my team mate to decide… he gave the decition to me, and I went with the slaves due to the scenarios in the turnament.

    The Leikadon has been added to the list, seems it is ilegal to not have one :p

    As for the Wind blast, It was added due to the capure-the-point/Grab-the-trasure scenarios in the turney, and it screwed me over last time (Read: It anoyed me), altho' I do not mind kicking it to the curb for a better option.

    I made anther list:
    Salamander Primes
    Horde(40)

    Ancients on Rhinosaurs
    Horde(6)
    -Blessing of the Gods

    Lekelidon
    Lekelidon

    Clan Lord on Fire Drake Hero (Mon)
    - Wings

    Altho I do miss the Skylord this is a Nice little toolbox of Beasties.

    Altho I am loath to remove the Clanlord I could also og With:

    Salamander Primes
    Horde
    - Brew of Strength 30

    Ancients on Rhinosaurs
    Horde
    - Brew of Haste 15

    Lekelidon
    Lekelidon

    Mage-Priest Hero (Inf)
    - Bane Chant (2) 15

    Ghekkotah Skylord Hero (LrgCav)
    - Blessing of the Gods

    EDIT: Oh, and I realy found the to-many-bodies argument from Rapax convicing wich is why I went With the Rhinos on this list.
     
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  5. Itepixcauh
    Bastiladon

    Itepixcauh Stranded Ghekkotah Staff Member

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    If it's 1000 points sadly you cannot use Two Lekelidons if using the CoK rules. You can easily swap one for a Skylord on list 1 taking out the Elite from the Ancients.

    That sounds REALLY good to me.
     
  6. Renaleika
    Jungle Swarm

    Renaleika New Member

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    Unfortunatly that would put me at 1010p

    I did however put together another list: (yes, this is actualy quite fun for me :D )

    Salamander Primes Horde(40)

    Ancients on Rhinosaurs Horde(6)
    -Blessing of the Gods

    Lekelidon

    Herald

    Clan Lord on Fire Drake
    -Wings
    -Ensorcelled Armour


    Alternatively:
    Salamander Primes Horde
    - Brew of Strength

    Ceremonial Guard Troop

    Ancients on Rhinosaurs Horde
    - Blessing of the Gods

    Lekelidon

    Mage-Priest
    - Bane Chant (2)

    Ghekkotah Skylord
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2018
  7. Itepixcauh
    Bastiladon

    Itepixcauh Stranded Ghekkotah Staff Member

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    Again, if you are using the CoK rules the Ensorcelled Armour can't be on the Clan Lord sadly. That was one of the first combos to get shut down. Try Blade of the Beast-Slayer on the Skylord ,that is amazing.

    If you aren't using the CoK rules go with it!

    Just so it's easier for you you might want to use this Web to build the list:

    http://kow2.easyarmy.com/clash-of-kings-2018.aspx
     
  8. Renaleika
    Jungle Swarm

    Renaleika New Member

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    I am usin the easy army Builder, but it has an anoying habit of switching back to 1.7 errata Version. Grrr :/

    Gona have to revisit some tings tomorow morning, oh well.

    EDIT; or I do it now, or else I cant sleep

    Salamander Primes Horde
    - Brew of Strength 30

    Ghekkotah Warriors Troop
    - Hammer of Measured Force 20

    Ancients on Rhinosaurs Horde
    - Blessing of the Gods 25

    Lekelidon

    Mage-Priest
    - Bane Chant (2) 15

    Ghekkotah Skylord
    - Blade of the Beast Slayer

    EDIT THE SECOND;

    Switch the Hammer of MF for an Inspiring Talisman on the Mage Priest
     
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  9. Itepixcauh
    Bastiladon

    Itepixcauh Stranded Ghekkotah Staff Member

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    That sounds just right to me. Inspiring instead of Hammer all the time if itsfor a Troop. I like it.
     

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