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AoS Crazy Lists and weird ideas

Discussion in 'Seraphon Army Lists' started by Killer Angel, Sep 20, 2019.

  1. Erta Wanderer
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    Erta Wanderer Well-Known Member

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    hit reply on the bottom right. yes it's only the battalion but thats healing on 5 units isted of 1 and you don't have to roll for saves and you reroll wounds
     
  2. TheGreatDerpyOne
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    And I'd have to scrap my entire army & strategy because even the minimum point cost for this is too expensive, so thank you - but I'll keep it as it is currently.

    I'll keep the strategy in mind if I want to make a drastic change.

    (EotG looks pretty bad stats wise unless you keep it close to your slann to pick between buffs)
    (With this change I'd lose one of my assassination tactics and have no use for command points)
    (thanks to GW for making batallions do this stuff - that makes my army a variant of the basic cookie cutout Seraphon recipe - whilst my entire point was to be unique)

    (for what I've read, that batallion is strong, but you'd have to pick between the benefits, so it may still work with priests)

    EDIT: So I opened up the online free warscroll builder, made a thunderquack duckhost (kroxigors are the better alternative, change my mind) so let's see.
    Pick savage every turn to get the rerolls on everything except hits
    Add astrolith for rerolling hits
    the astrolith and engine have synergy with a slann
    add balewind and cogs for summoning
    battleline = 2 sets of 5 knights and as many skinks as point value will allow for
    2k points cookie cutout thunderthighs
    aaaaaand I'm not having fun anymore.
    delete list.

    (Kroxies have 4 wounds a pop, which makes killing them harder and healing them more effective - besides, they CAN have a better damage output than <equal points> worth of razors& handlers - which I believe is 2 - but my point is because of their survivability, and because the cookie comes with a summoning setup, you can just spawn in razors without paying points for them and have them safe behind a cow wall of 2 basties and 3 kroxies, they'll still benefit from the reroll hits, won't need the heals, and are more convenient to get this way)
     
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  3. TheGreatDerpyOne
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    Ok, here's a doozy - probably won't work, but fun nonetheless.

    Edit: Well then - I've scrapped most of the CP list design after some research, and THIS is now my crazy CP list
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    Kroak (430) (General)- Edit: Kroak can't have command traits, hmm...
    *Rolls 3 dice in each of my hero phases - every 4+ is an extra CP
    *Can summon support units like skinks to take points after the carnosaurs are done trampling everything
    *Moves himself using LoSaT despite being on a balewind


    Oldblood on carnosaur (240) - Crystalline blade (Hysh)
    *Pick a melee weapon and add 1 to its wound rolls.
    Oldblood on carnosaur (240) - Aetherquartz Brooch (Hysh)
    *Roll when spending a CP - on a 5+ you get it back, recycling is important to this strategy and to the environment!
    *Since you roll when spending one, you can then decide to instantly reuse that CP on another trigger of the ability.

    Oldblood on carnosaur (240) - No artefact
    (this one charges in first to try and lure out the counterattacks)

    (keep in mind that these Oldbloods do an AOE buff on each other - 1CP = 6 extra attacks in the combat phase)
    (Since we can't buff their ranged attacks, I suggest we just keep barraging the same hero target repeatedly)


    Saurus Astrolith Bearer (160)
    *Making sure to reroll any failed hits for the massive amount of Dino Waagh we're about to commit
    *He can run every turn as we won't be needing him in combat, really.


    Eternity guard Batallion (150)
    (3x 5 saurus guard = battleline = 240)
    Eternity warden
    (140)
    *Adds an extra CP to start with, makes setup faster, and is a good defensive squadron

    Extra Command Point (50)
    *Shouldn't need an explaination

    10 Skinks (70)

    Balewind Vortex (40)
    Kroak can teleport anyways, might as well give him another spell.


    2000/2000Pt. 7 turn Deployment
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    If there's a way to make these carnosaurs attack twice - PLEASE tell me - as their buff lasts until the next hero phase, if I can attack twice, they'll rip through anything.
     
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  4. TheGreatDerpyOne
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    I've decided summonspam is overdone, I'm doing some research on other broken strategies

    May Sotek guide you :p
     
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  5. brodarg
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    My Magic & Mayhem List:

    Leaders:
    Slann Starmaster
    Lord Kroak
    Engine of the Gods

    Battleline:
    10 Skinks x3

    Behemoths:
    Bastiladon
    Dread Saurian

    Endless Spells:
    Balewind Vortex
    Chronomantic Cogs
    Burning Head
     
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  6. MackiMac
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    Kroak are sadly not allowed any command traits.
     
  7. Lizerd
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    Basically the idea of this list is to be the biggest middle finger to anyone with heavy armor

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    Mortal Realm: Ulgu

    Leaders
    Slann Starmaster (260)
    - General
    - Trait: Great Rememberer
    - Artefact: Incandescent Rectrices
    - Spell: Stellar Tempest
    Saurus Astrolith Bearer (160)
    Saurus Scar-Veteran on Cold One (100)
    - Artefact: Betrayer's Crown
    Skink Starpriest (80)
    - Spell: Mystical Unforging
    Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (240)
    - War Spear
    - Artefact: Sword of Judgement

    Battleline
    5 x Saurus Knights (80)
    - Lances
    5 x Saurus Knights (80)
    - Lances
    5 x Saurus Knights (80)
    - Lances

    Units
    3 x Salamanders (120)
    3 x Salamanders (120)
    3 x Salamanders (120)
    3 x Salamanders (120)
    3 x Skink Handlers (40)
    3 x Skink Handlers (40)

    Battalions
    Dracothion's Tail (80)
    Firelance Starhost (150)

    Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
    Balewind Vortex (40)
    Chronomantic Cogs (80)

    Total: 1990 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 2
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 108
     
  8. TheGreatDerpyOne
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    Oh all right, no problem, list is still broken despite kroak's lack of command trait
     
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  9. TheGreatDerpyOne
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    I'd turn the salamanders into razordons because there's too many things that ignore rend, and salamanders' hit&wound chance is... saddening
    but hey, if it works it works
     
  10. Erta Wanderer
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    it's a ok list if you spend 3 command points on the carnosaurs you can do
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    per carno aganst a 4+ save or 0-8 damage against good saves like chaos warriors, stone horns, mortec guard, phoenix guard or witch elves and only if you keep all 3 of them within 12 of each other and the asttrolith
     
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  11. Lizerd
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    Razordons are definitely cool but they don’t have the same rend as salamanders. From personal experience I was able to get six salamanders rerolling hits to wipe out a unit of 20 ard boys in two rounds of shooting.
     
  12. Erta Wanderer
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    really? dang that's exceptionally lucky
     
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  13. Lizerd
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    The whole game went poorly for the ork player (he was also new to AoS). He effectively cleared my saurus knight screen after they dealt a few mortal wounds to the orks. As soon as they cleared that line I fell back and created another screen of skinks, all the while being scorched by salamanders.

    In the meanwhile I also killed a Maw Krusha in one round of melee combat :D
     
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  14. Erta Wanderer
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    what on earth did you do that with? i don't think an entire seraphon army can do that. did you have 4+ carnos?
     
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  15. Lizerd
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    It did involve carnosaurs which is why I say they are still viable. So I had an oldblood on Carnosaur burn its command ability which in turn affected my scar vet on carnosaur. The scar vet had sword of judgement and a warspear. 8 attacks and 3 hits of 6. The maw krusha already had a few wounds on it from a round of salamander shooting. it took 10 mortal wounds in an instant :D
     
  16. Erta Wanderer
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    oooh ok a sword of japan would do it
     
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  17. ILKAIN
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    that is an epically hilarious typo
     
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  18. Lizerd
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    wHiLe yOu sTudiEd At SChOoL I sTUdiEd tHE BlAdE
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  19. ILKAIN
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    is that you? I feel like ive seen that photo before...
     
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  20. Lizerd
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    Nope, it’s definitely not me. I personally would use a Roman Spatha over some weeb katana
     

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