Yeah, I think the last tip is by far the most important =) Thanks for the advice! How would you deal with the current power-house SCE builds, i.e. the Stardrake+Fulminator and the Vanguard Wing with 30 Liberators? The former seems tricky due to the damage output on t1 with d3 mortals from the Stardrake, d6+3 from the Knight-Venator and a potential d3 mortals from the Lightning Charioted Heraldor (in this case, terrain has to be avoided). You do get to decide who goes first though, so perhaps taking the first turn and sniping the Venator is the best option... That puts you in range of his 10 Judicators on the other hand, so doesn't exactly solve the problem. I guess the second could be handled by ignoring the Liberators, sniping the Castellant and/or Prosecutors, then teleporting units to contest objectives. Still, depending on the scenario, you may have to chew your way through all 60 Liberator wounds, which I'm not sure your list has the damage output to do. Tricky. On a similar note, how would you deal with Fyreslayer Vulkite spam? Also, do you know what list John Dale used, who ended up 10th at the tournament?