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AoS General's Handbook finally announced !!

Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by Seraphage, Jun 26, 2017.

  1. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Yep, it is just missing in the app.
     
  2. Tizianolol
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    I think it's an error! I'm waiting my gh17 Italian version! Its pretty stupid If officially the answer Is command abilityes! As you have said waagh became usless for gruntas, or maw etc!! And ob carno command ability became usless too
     
  3. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Exactly. Pretty much everyone I talked to about it agrees it has to be an error.
     
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  4. Killer Angel
    Slann

    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

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    Friday will be the day! :)
     
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  5. Nielspeterdejong
    Terradon

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    I had a question about the Heavenwatch Starhost actually. One of your options is to pick a "Hunting pack", which comprises out of a Skink Handlers unit, and at least one Razordon/Salamander unit. When you teleport, could you teleport the entire "Hunting pack" unit at once?
     
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  6. Wazz
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    That is a good question! I hope so but I don't think so because they are seperate units that make it up. I hope I am wrong though lol
     
  7. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Yeah those are two units. But to be honest I think Razordons are still great for teleporting them around, even without their handlers. Especially in a Thunderquake, so you could port the Razordons and the Troglodon leading the bataillon. That way they get the hit rerolls of the Bataillon, which is even better than handlers.
     
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  8. Nielspeterdejong
    Terradon

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    You mean like letting them charge in? Because I believe the rerolls are only for the combat phase?
     
  9. Killer Angel
    Slann

    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

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    All I can say is that, after a test battle:

    Slann w Vast Intellect + Bastiladon = WIN
     
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  10. Nielspeterdejong
    Terradon

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    What was your build? :)
     
  11. Mark Sinosich
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    What made it so WIN? How did you use them?
     
  12. Nielspeterdejong
    Terradon

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    Btw, about the thunderquake, do you get the save reroll when near the Troglodon? Or is it a buff given around the Troglodon in the hero phase?
     
  13. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    You have to be around it when the rolls happen.
    What makes it win is the load of buffs you can put on it.

    And no, the rerolls are not only in the combat phase. You decide in the combat phase and the buffs last until the next combat phase. It has to be that way because otherwise rerolling charges would never happen.
     
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  14. Nielspeterdejong
    Terradon

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    Wait, I thought the save and hit/wound rerolls didn't happen in the shooting phase?
     
  15. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Perhaps we are not talking about the same thing?
    I was referring to the Thunderquake Starhost abilities. In contrast to other abilities it does NOT say "in the following combat phase" or "in this combat phase", it says that you decide in the combat phase. But since it mentions charge moves it clearly means that the abilities are not limited to the combat phase, and not even to your turn.
    That means those abilities apply to shooting and also to saves in your opponent's turns as well.
     
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  16. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    And of course that means that in the first round you cannot buff charges and hits of the shooting phase.
    Unless you are going second that is!
     
  17. Killer Angel
    Slann

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    We played at 1000 pts. 2 vs 2, the fifth scenario, where 2 attack (including me) and 2 defend.

    I've had:
    Slann (lord of space and time, Vast intellect)
    Bastiladon w ark of sotek
    Bastiladon w solar beam
    2 x 10 skinks
    1 x salamander

    My ally was Beastclaw riders

    vs:

    dwarfs (warriors, 20 x thunderers, 20 x irondrakes, warden k, runelord)

    SCE (2 x 5 guys with bow, the long range sniper hero w the bird, some melee units)

    __________

    my ally, with mournfangs, thundertusk and stonehorn, after delivering some good blow in the first turn tnx to charge (blasted away SCE meleers), was wiped away with its whole army in the following souble turn of shooting.

    My tactic was: mystic shield + Starlight + Curse of fate on Basti-Ark, teleport the basti and charge the group of defender. The basti got save +2, impose -1 to hit it and can even save a roll of 1 with curse. I don't think we can have a more powerful combo in defence, and this was possible with the Slann that cast all those 3 spells, saving the (280?) points of the other skink casters.

    in the meantime the other basti was moving and shooting and skinks were going for objectives.

    Then the slann teleport in cover, to have again in range with spells the melee basti, repeat the 3 spells on it.

    at that point, the SCE tried to kill my Slann, but i was in cover so I survived. 3rd round: again triple spell on basti and Slann teleports away in a sure position, and the laser basti was now ready to charge... .

    I won the game, the tactic of concentrate the spells and teleport (rinse and repeat) is truly solid.
     
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  18. Nielspeterdejong
    Terradon

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    So.... Say I go first, and I teleport in: I won't get the bonusses in my shooting phase, because I have to choose it in my combat phase.

    But on my next turn I can get the bonus I choose in the previous turn in the shooting phase?
     
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  19. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Yes because you can choose in any combat phase, which includes your opponent's.
     
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  20. Nielspeterdejong
    Terradon

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    Cool! You can still shoot while in combat right?
     

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