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That's pretty much how I feel. The models are fine, the typical high quality that we've come to expect from GW, but somehow it doesn't feel like Warhammer to me. Then again, from my vantage point either does TOW, so I guess it is fitting.

It will be a nice new army for some people to invest in, but not something that calls to me. The big dragon is pretty cool though.

I agree with @J.Logan . It's pretty evident that GW had a major influence on how Cathay was depicted in Total War, so it only makes sense that the physical models would follow in the same style.



Are we still guessing that the order release will be Beastmen, followed by Wood Elves, and lastly Cathay? Any thoughts @Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl ? Also, is this just the first wave? Can we expect the rest to follow?

 

That's interesting. I did not know that vampires needed a fancy ritual to turn someone into a vampire. Serves me right for only skimming through the Vampire Counts army book.

What does this ritual entail? Restraining the Dragon Ogre Shaggoth might not be necessary, as many are in deep slumber. In fact, Archaon retrieved the Slayer of Kings from a sleeping Krakanrok the Black, knowing full well that he could never defeat the beast in combat. So if the ritual is quiet enough, it might be possible.

However, none of this is proof in my eyes. Even if the ritual is extraordinarily difficult to perform on a Dragon Ogre Shaggoth, and even if that explains why we don't see them in the Warhammer world, it still isn't proof that they would be susceptible to the curse of vampires. Personally, and it's okay if you feel differently, in the absence of direct evidence (i.e. an actual Dragon Ogre being turned in the lore), I'd at least need some strong inference that it is possible. Something along the lines of in-lore legends that such a feat might be plausible or even having other gigantic creatures (like a dragon) succumb to it. While not direct proof, that would provide some theory with which to entertain the possibility.

Of course, neither of us are truly right or wrong. Whether it is possible or not will come down to the authors' decision, and as far as I know, no author has ever tackled the subject.

 

GW confirmed that Beastmen would be first in a previous post: https://www.warhammer-community.com...orld-almanack-the-high-elves-of-elthin-arvan/

That's what I'm hoping for all three factions announced, especially as there were a lot more units present in the Total War Cathay army list. One thing about the Cathay release is that it shows GW is willing to invest a substantial amount into TOW to give it brand-new fully-plastic army ranges, a sign that they have seen its success among the playerbase and want it to continue.

 

I guess the Wood Elves are still a good couple of months away then.

Thanks for the info!

It would appear that way.

 

Okay chaps, time for some speculation and tinfoil hats. What is the next TOW army (or armies) after Cathay? Do they release something new or start the cycle again with second editions?

 

Kislev most likely. Whenever they get to the Great War Against Chaos, then Daemons of Chaos, Dark Elves and maybe Chaos Dwarfs.

 

Well I missed this. He looks swanky.

 

I'm liking cathay, but I don't want to pay GW's new standard pricing for them.

 

LOL

 

That would be exciting. Wasn't there TOW Kislev concept art released on the Warhammer Community website a while back? I heard people chatting that Games Workshop might be reluctant to release them due to their Russian-inspired aesthetics, at least while the whole Russia-Ukraine conflict is still going on.

If GW go back on their word and bring the legacy armies to the forefront of the game, that would mean that our Lizards have a chance too.

Fingers crossed for this!

 

I'm hoping that the Wood Elves battalion follows suit with GW's previous battalion cost at $220CAD. It's a nice little collection of models that are just what @Mrs. NIGHTBRINGER needs for her army.

 

50 Models and 2 war machines for $185 is a bit much for me to stomach.

 

Not entirely sure, I think it depends on the writer and the only consistent thing is that creating a vampire requires active effort, more effort than it does in most settings where a simple bite can be enough to spread the curse.

As far as I can find, dragons aren't just immune, dragon blood is even supposed to cure vampirism.

More generally speaking, it seems that it's easier to just kill the big powerfull thing, and raise it as an undead variant. So noone really bothers.
Partially this seems to be because of the complexity of creating a vampire, and the fact that powerfull creatures aren't just going to freely cooperate. And partially because the "parent' wants to control the "child" vampire. And that gets difficult when the child is very powerfull

O yeah, all of this is purely speculative. Honestly, it's kind of surprising no writer seems to really have touched the subject in warhammer.

 

And that's a "good deal" in modern GW circles.

 

Honestly the worst part is that GW's pricing isn't even entirely unreasonable as far as companies goes. With the exception of a few things (mostly individual minor-ish heroes), they've actually mostly kept pace with inflation. Except payraises haven't been keeping up with inflation in the slightest.

 

Which makes one wonder if Dragon Ogre/Shaggoth blood would have a similar result, given that in Warhammer lore they're distant kin to Dragons.

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com...den-demon-2025-winners-revealed-at-adepticon/ The Gold winning entry for Old World is a Chaos Dwarf.

 

I was going to suggest the same thing!