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Killer Angel said:
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Adam Connover is frequently wrong. But he is right here.


But it's not just the restaurant owners fault. It's the illusion of pricing.

I used to buy and sell books and miniatures on e-bay. Often to get the thing I wanted I'd have to buy a large lot of things I didn't want, so I'd sell the extras individually.

I found selling a $20 item with $5 shipping is less attractive than selling a $25 item with free shipping.

Tipping works in reverse because people don't think about the tip when looking at their menu prices, they normally don't think about the tip till the end.

Hypothetically, to end tipping a restaurant would have to loudly say "we don't tip here, we pay our servers market rates" and quietly raise the prices of the food and drinks.

My understanding is that places that experiment with this, if it's a food place, the servers like it more. If most of the profits come from drink sales, servers like it less. Alcohol sales tend to generate more tips.
 
Scalenex said:
Adam Connover is frequently wrong. But he is right here.


But it's not just the restaurant owners fault. It's the illusion of pricing.

I used to buy and sell books and miniatures on e-bay. Often to get the thing I wanted I'd have to buy a large lot of things I didn't want, so I'd sell the extras individually.

I found selling a $20 item with $5 shipping is less attractive than selling a $25 item with free shipping.

Tipping works in reverse because people don't think about the tip when looking at their menu prices, they normally don't think about the tip till the end.

Hypothetically, to end tipping a restaurant would have to loudly say "we don't tip here, we pay our servers market rates" and quietly raise the prices of the food and drinks.

My understanding is that places that experiment with this, if it's a food place, the servers like it more. If most of the profits come from drink sales, servers like it less. Alcohol sales tend to generate more tips.
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Simple solution:

1. people stop tipping
2. severs can no longer make a living wage and find a new job
3. restaurants need servers and to secure them they have to pay them fairly
 
Scalenex said:
Adam Connover is frequently wrong. But he is right here.


But it's not just the restaurant owners fault. It's the illusion of pricing.

I used to buy and sell books and miniatures on e-bay. Often to get the thing I wanted I'd have to buy a large lot of things I didn't want, so I'd sell the extras individually.

I found selling a $20 item with $5 shipping is less attractive than selling a $25 item with free shipping.

Tipping works in reverse because people don't think about the tip when looking at their menu prices, they normally don't think about the tip till the end.

Hypothetically, to end tipping a restaurant would have to loudly say "we don't tip here, we pay our servers market rates" and quietly raise the prices of the food and drinks.

My understanding is that places that experiment with this, if it's a food place, the servers like it more. If most of the profits come from drink sales, servers like it less. Alcohol sales tend to generate more tips.
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I can't stomach Adam so even when he's right I can't bring myself to watch him. That being said I totally agree with you on the perception of value. You offer free shipping but the item is more costly people tend to view that as a "savings". I hate the tipping culture as I will tip on how well they actually do their job. Others I know will not tip at all or if guilted into it they will pay the absolute minimum. When I was in my 20s we would go to a diner after being out at a bar. The waitress we always saw was amazing and put up with us, not that we were that bad. The rule was that no matter what you got you put down $5,as this was a rental fee for them allowing us to be there for a few hours. The people who didn't do it weren't asked to hang out with us. She earned that over and above her pay so I'm fine with that. Having to survive on the generosity of others is not how I would choose to live.
 
NIGHTBRINGER said:
Simple solution:

1. people stop tipping
2. severs can no longer make a living wage and find a new job
3. restaurants need servers and to secure them they have to pay them fairly
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If I had the power to get large numbers of people to act the same way, I could do a lot more than just reform restaurant customs.

I could rule the world.
 
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