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AoS Mathhammer average marshal statistics of the Seraphon

Discussion in 'Seraphon Tactics' started by Erta Wanderer, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. Erta Wanderer
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    Erta Wanderer Well-Known Member

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    Hello all inspired by humble wargammer and in hope that me doing all the work would have GW drop our book and undo all of it i have written up all of the average damage and wound stats for our army. Hopefully it can be of use to me and others to compare units and list building.
    a few notes first this list dose not account for buffs supplied by other units or command powers just what the unit supplies themselves if you would like ask me to stat out a combination and ill add it in try to keep it to commonly used or debated ones. im also up for stating out units from other army's for comparison just ask.
    units with a profile will have there stats set out like this :unprofiled (next relevant damage lvl) and so on i use brackets for other attack differences and put a description next to the attacks name if i missed anything let me know and ill fix it.
    this is not a comprehensive list of the value of a unit just its stuck in fighting force. and with that out of the the way hear we go.

    i have condensed it into a exel file and fixed a lot of mistakes a different page for every unit it goes leaders non leader behemoths and then units
    https://1drv.ms/x/s!Atva9vVE1gJ5gXdCEWKTHz7GrQAG
     
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    Awesome post, thanks for all the mathhammer!
     
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    i was making it for my own use and thaught it could do more good hear i like to know about how long my units can survive and what i can expect out of them.
     
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    Could you put it into an excel file and nicely organized per unit? It's a lot more readable than a giant list :p
     
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    I have thought about doing this for myself. If get I it done before someone else then I will post it it here.
     
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    i'm afraid i don't own excel but ill see what i can do edit: got a free months trial working on it now
     
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    If you feel zealous making a .csv file is possible as well and looks the same. Those can be made with opensource variants (or even relativly easily by hand in notepad :p)
     
  8. Erta Wanderer
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    i don't think i'm up for that but the exel file is ready have a look i put it in the first comment tell me what you think and if i did anything wrong with the attachment
     
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    ok file is up to date with the 2019 handbook have fun in addition i want to do another army which one do you guys want me to stat out.
     
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    just looking at ripper averages and they seem off?

    even just looking at spears, you either have;

    1*0.5*0.5 if you arent swooping for 0.25 damage, then 0.2 on a 6+ save
    1*0.75*0.75 if you ARE swooping for 0.5625, then 0.4875 on a 6+ save
    1*0.75*0.8844 if you ARE swooping and came in via shadowstrike for .6633 which is 0.55275 on a 6+ save

    0.5 being 4+ on a dice
    0.75 being 4+ rerolling on a dice
    0.8844 being 3+ rerolling on a dice
     
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  11. Erta Wanderer
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    thanks for the feedback are you accounting for all three models i don't count alphas but with three of them engaged that's 3 attacks 4+hit 1.5 4+wounds .75 damage saves 6 0.625. if you want i can add swooping dive to the chart
     
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    ah suddenly makes sense, i thought you were doing it per model rather than per unit, my bad :)
     
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    i use min size units for ease of use and scaling any other changes are noted
     
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    I don't know what I doing wrong but can only see the ripper's.
     
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    check the bottom of the page it should have tabs for the different units
     
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    Y I tried but I never reach the bottom after 900 I gave up maybe doesn't work on my phone.
     
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    ah i don't know how it interacts with phones sorry
     
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    Woe is me... blocked from the link at work...
     
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