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new Beastmen: minimum model army

Discussion in 'General Hobby/Tabletop Chat' started by Aginor, Sep 22, 2018.

  1. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

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    Hey y'all!

    This is a question to all of you who already have the new Battletome for Beasts of Chaos.

    I am considering playing that army, but I am not too eager to paint mass units such as Ungors.
    I do like the big ones (Doombull, Bullgors, Centigor, Cygors) and the Brayherd heroes. The more elite Bestigors would also be OK.

    I wonder: are there bataillons in the book that support that play style?
    What about allies? I have a Silver Tower set so a few Tzaangors (as Tzaangor enlightened) might work, and I have a Ogroid Thaumaturge for magical support.

    Basically the goal would be to build an elite army consisting of few models.
    For 1250 points or so for now.

    Any good ideas how that could work?
     
  2. little-myth
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    little-myth Well-Known Member

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    I have the book here so I can give a few things out.
    Beasts of Chaos is a bit boring when it comes to allies as they can only ally with Slaves to Darkness.
    Tzaangors, Shaman, and Skyfires/Enlightened are in the book with a Brayherd/Beasts of Chaos keyword along with them. No Ogroid though sadly enough.
    There is a Battalion for a Warherd along with artefacts and command traits for Warherd heroes
    The Khorne battalion could also be an idea as it has a mix of the heavy units, with ones that the Warherd ones don't have like the Centigors and Dragon Ogors
     
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  3. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

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    Hmmm....
    So if I want to play beastmen + Ogroid I would have to play a Tzeentch army with Beastmen as allies. Meh. Don't want that. Even though I could use Mark of Chaos to give them the Tzeentch keyword and they wouldn't even be allies I think. But then I would have to use Tzeentch allegiance.

    But playing Warherd might be an option, and taking a Brayherd Shaman or Dragon Ogre for the magic.
    Hmmm....
     
  4. little-myth
    Carnasaur

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    Many people asked about combining the marked beasts with the daemons. GW never really answered the question clearly so hopefully the FaQ might answer that. How I want to make more use of my Nurgle, then I realised with Clan Pestilens also. The Slannesh one is interesting also, the book has many choices and I love it
     
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  5. Deed525
    Troglodon

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    The book looks awesome (just finished reading it myself) knocked together an army...it seems amazingly OP lol - the amount of damage and mortal wounds you can churn out is crazy.

    If you want less models go for thunderscorn (as they cost more) but retain magic ability and healing.
    If you don’t mind losing some magical ability but want brute strength warherd is the one.

    I do myself prefer go mix the Tzaangors as well...they are crazy good (ranged attacks of death)
    And of course throw a few nasty monsters into the mix for some extra clout (cockatrice is 100 points and can put out some serious hurt if used right)
     
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  6. Deed525
    Troglodon

    Deed525 Well-Known Member

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    I’ve gone for:

    Dragon ogor shaggoth (general)
    -mutating gnarlblade
    -unraveling aura
    -sundering blades spell

    Tzaangor shaman
    -Titanic fury spell

    Tzaangor shaman
    -wild rampage
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    30x gors
    10x ungor
    10x ungor
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    Jabberslyth
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    Cockatrice
    Cockatrice
    Cockatrice
    3x Tzaangor skyfires
    3x Tzaangor skyfires
    10x Tzaangors
    Chaos spawn
    Chaos spawn

    -2,000 points
    -Tzench mark
    -Gavespawn
    -Herdstone

    The synergies are awesome...
    Shaggoth gets an extra +2 damage on his axe from artefact - shaman no1 can buff him with an extra attack on all of his melee weapons (all) for a damage potential of 29, shaman no2 gives him wounding re-rolls.

    Shamans not only buff the big lad but can also deal d3 mortal wounds a piece as per their base spell whilst creating a new Tzaangor for every wound Inflicked (hence the 10man unit of them) providing the spells hit off that’s a nice 2-6 free Tzaangors per round (they have the ability to cast 2 spells once per game so can buff the shaggoth when needed)
    They also buff the skyfires within range.

    The gors get a +1 rend from shaggoth, extra attack for being near a chaos spawn with his command ability, another extra attack for having over 20 models and of course al the benefits for being near a herdstone.

    Jabber simply adds some extra kick and if his aura works (slim chance) but if it does happy days (no attacking/casting etc)
    And the 3x cockatrice can dish out 3d6 mortal wounds to anything round and shouts (monsters and elites mostly) + decent melee attacks on the charge.

    Ungors are poor sacrificial lambs - at least one unit heads for the herdstone to slit their own throats, summon a nice monster or some more skyfires etc in a round or two.
     
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  7. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    I’m also interested in a minimum army so this is useful
     
  8. little-myth
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    I might try and go with a minimum army this time also, how nearly every army I have is horde based and I am a little tired carting so many miniatures around. Still having the beast horde though as I have a few units already.
    That's what makes the Beasts of Chaos a good book, it's very flexible with the units.
     
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  9. Aginor
    Slann

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    Urge to buy: rising.

    Not yet though. I have stuff to finish.
     
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    Slann

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    I've just had a look at my usual supplier and they have them all in stock.

    Now what would be in a minimum army because is the SC box worth it for just the big guy?
     
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    Slann

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    The big guy only.... I tend to say it isn't worth it then.
    But if you can use the shaman then it may be worth it.
    Shaman + Cygor = 44+11,5 = 55,5 Euros
    Start collecting = 65 Euros

    I think you can sell the small guys on Ebay for more than 10 Euros since a box of Ungors and Bestigors is more than 20€ each and the Bestigors are even out of stock right now (at least it said out of stock online on the site I just saw)
     
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    Slann

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    Hmmm I can get the SC for £38 might be worth buying 2 and selling the little guys
     
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    Sounds profitable enough!
     
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    Slann

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    So if we went Dragon route what would a typical list look like?
     
  15. Deed525
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    One biggass shaggoth 3x units of dragon ogres and whatever filler you fancy really.

    Contemplating making a shaggoth from a carnosaur body (sculpting the top beastmen half) as the older one just isn’t big enough
     
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