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Discussion in 'Painting and Converting' started by HeirofCarnage, Dec 28, 2017.

  1. HeirofCarnage
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    HeirofCarnage Well-Known Member

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    Now, for something slightly better. My Beastmen.
    The first two are abysmal, but I actually like the second two (chariot and spawn)
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    I actually made the chariot from tooth picks, using art from TW 1 as a model. It was a royal pain in the rear. The razorgor actually has a mane of fur (I don't know if you can see it in the pictures)
    The spawn (with the claw) has a mark of chaos in his chest (so hard to get detail in clay)

    The thing that looks remotely like a minotaur is just that. A minotaur. In my defense, it was my third miniature, and is 3 years old.

    I still have another chaos spawn (a good one this time, I promise) a hell cannon, a marauder with javelins, and some proxy elves if you all can take any more of this crap.:(:sorry:
     

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  2. tom ndege
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    I sense a great creativity in this one...
     
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  3. Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl
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    I do not hate the prequels - the originals are far weaker. Do not disrespect the prequels in front of me. You have been warned.

    I do criticise the originals in my Star Debate Wars against @NIGHTBRINGER 's Imperial forces, but I don't hate them, I just think they are inferior to Episodes 1-3 (Which they naturally are - poor characters, silly over-the-top plots, e.t.c.).

    As for AoS, I'm not really much into it - I agree more with @NIGHTBRINGER when talking about AoS in that it will never replace the spectacle that was Warhammer fantasy, but it appears that you were too late to experience it's epicness, so it is perfectly understandable that you play AoS instead.

    Anyway, welcome to the site - Your scratch-made models are very original and creative - if you keep practicing with them they'll get better and better. It'll certainly save you a good lot of cash! Are they made of simple modelling clay or is there something more specialist being used? There are quite a few other miniature sculptors here, including the almighty miniature caster @Warden - you might want to have a chat with him and show him some of your models - see what he thinks. I'm sure he'll be very impressed to see that there is another sculptor he can adopt as a Padawan learner!


    I look forward to seeing you round! :)
     
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  4. Aginor
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    The clay models are a good start to sculpting I think. Very creative!
    Sure, they are not as detailed, but I like how you captured the key characteristics of the models.

    I am really really bad at sculpting myself so I cannot give any advice on that.

    ...but I recently experimented with making molds and casting. More in my blog soon.
    Maybe you can get a few cheap models on eBay or so and then make a few more out of them. That would also help for making an army out of your sculpted models.
    Sure you won't be able to play in a GW store with those but they could help you practice your sculpting with a few parts that almost have the right shape already so you just have to make some changes.
     
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  5. HeirofCarnage
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    HeirofCarnage Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Guys! It was nice of y'all not to just roll in and say-those are crap. Instead you found something nice about them.:rolleyes:

    And @Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl yes, they are simple modelling clay. (Got it at Hobby Lobby). It is quite a pain to work with. (It crumbles.):bored: I have lost several that way. Anything that is really small detail (like a face) will just... fade away.

    I can reglue a broken arm, but if the thing turns to dust?!:banghead: the minotaur's left hand for example. It originally held an axe. (The one the troll is using) But the arm just... disintegrated. I kept the axe, and made a new arm for the minotaur.

    And yeah, I will have to start practicing more. I plan on having a field day once the GS gets here.:p

    Your acolyte,
    HeirofCarnage.

    P.S. thanks for all the warm welcomes!:)
     
  6. NIGHTBRINGER
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    I agree... why put up with characters such as Darth Vader, Han Solo and Lando when you can enjoy such classics as Anakin, Padme and Jar Jar Binks? (sarcasm) ;)

    And this is why people think I hate the prequels.

    In any event, we have a forum topic for this discussion: http://www.lustriaonline.com/threads/rank-the-star-wars-movies-from-best-to-worst.20657/

    Have you tried coating the finished models with varnish of some sorts? It might help seal things and mitigate some of the disintegrations you are experiencing.

     
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  7. HeirofCarnage
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    I have tried coating the model in Elmers glue (It works 95% of the time, but sometimes the model will crumble inside the glue.)

    And let's please not get into which Star Wars movie is better. Like you pointed out, there is a separate thread for that. I don't want this thread to turn into a back and forth about Star Wars.
     
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    Alright, I painted most of two shields. Here is the front of one.
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    Thoughts/criticism?
     
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    This will be the shield of one of my Scar-vets.
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    Thoughts/criticism?

    ~Acolyte HeirofCarnage.
     
  10. tom ndege
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    Looks like a neat and clean paint job... but (I hate to say it) the brown parts and some of the yellow/ochre parts look a bit grainy... it's obviously the quality of the paint... which can vary a lot among the cheap dollar store paints even within one brand of paints...
    The effect can be reduced by a later coat of clear varnish...
    But maybe you should prepare to change your paint range at some point... biting the apple and getting some 'real' paints was one of my major steps to improve my painting...

    To sum it up: Good start!:artist:
     
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    Yeah, I probably should. But it is hard to buy a 12 ml bottle of paint for $2.55 when I can get a 59 ml bottle for $0.90.

    5 times as much for under half the price.
     
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    I know... but it's worth it... the results will be noticeable different... and these paints also behave much better than the cheap ones when thinned with water...
     
  13. HeirofCarnage
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    Second guys shield arm. The hand half is dry brushed with leaf grean, and the shoulder half is not.
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    Thoughts?
     
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    Your paints are indeed a bit thick.
    Shading will cover up those effects a bit I think.
    The drybrush looks good although it is a bit grainy.
     
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    So should I thin the paint, and then dry brush with thinned paint?
     
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    For drybrushing a thicker paint is OK. Just for the base colors and layering I think you should thin it down a bit more.
     
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    Okay! Thanks for the tip. Any advice on a good paint thinner? (Besides water)
     
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    Water works for thinning paint for most purposes. If you make the paints really thin (if you want to make your own shades for example) you should use some sort of acrylic thinner. For example those used for air brush colors.
    But depending on your location there might be cheap cleaning liquids that are also suitable. I remember Luke from Luke's APS mentioned some floor polish that you can buy in the UK which works fine.
     
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    Talking about thinning paint for dry brushing: I wouldn't do that... or only very little... actually the thicker consistency is good for dry brushing... just wipe out the brush very well and clean it once in a while so the paint doesn't crumble up the bristles...
     
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    Ah one more point about water:
    If the water in your area is "hard" so it has a lot of minerals in it, you might want to use distilled water instead.
     

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