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AoS Serpent staff

Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by MackiMac, Sep 12, 2018.

  1. MackiMac
    Skink

    MackiMac Member

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    Os there a list or something that shows which units benefit from the skink starpriest serpent staff ability?
     
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    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    Any SERAPHON unit that has bite or jaws attacks
     
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  3. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

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    I think I did a list about it... Can't find it right now.

    From the top of my head:
    - Saurus Warriors
    - Saurus Guard
    - Saurus Knights
    - Saurus Astrolith Bearer
    - Saurus Sunblood
    - Saurus Eternity Warden
    - Scar-Veteran on Cold One
    - Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur
    - Saurus Oldblood on foot
    - Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur
    - Dread Saurian
    - Troglodon
    - Salamander
    - Razordon
    - Kroxigor

    Questionable:
    - Ripperdactyl Riders (neither says "bite" or "jaws" in their name or descriptions, but beak. A beak is the jaws of a bird so I would say yes)
    - Terradon Riders (same as Rippers)
     
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  4. LizardWizard
    Troglodon

    LizardWizard Well-Known Member

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    I am pretty sure the word jaws needs to be in their attack profile name for the Staff to work. In the case of Ripperdactyls and Terradon Riders I lean towards it not working. I can see a strong argument for it working fluff wise and I would say it works in any casual games I played. Either way it is something to bring up with your opponent before the match.
     
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  5. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

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    Rules as written I agree.
    Check if the name of the attack contains *bite* or *jaws*. Then the ability applies. If not, it doesn't.

    It is still kinda silly to say that a Ripperdactyl's huge jaw isn't a biting attack.
    For the Terradon you could make the argument that it is merely pecking with the beak.

    I have never argued about it with an opponent (and I always had a better target for the Serpent Staff, or was out of range with the Starpriest anyway, so it didn't really matter either).
     
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  6. LizardWizard
    Troglodon

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    ^this is why it has never been an issue for me as well. However, I could see it getting abused in Shadowstrike.
     
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    Stegadon

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    No tournament would allow it, the rules are clear as you said. "Bite" or "Jaw" no way to go around this. Not even sure for razordons as it does have the word "bite" but also ahve the word tail. This could be discussed but I would never consider discussing beak into this :p
     
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    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

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    About the razordon:
    It is the same with Saurus Warriors (or all other Saurus jaws attack) The weapon name usually mentions their jaws and their shields and the Serpent Staff affects those attacks. By the same logic it will work for the tail and jaws attack of the Razordon.
     

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