9th Age Discussion of OpenHammer (ETC) and Ninth Age (Swedish Comp)

I was actually thinking that some kind of melee focused skink unit, could be an interesting addition to the core section. I don't know if it fluff wise proper and I am too a saurus fan boy, so I wouldn't want a unit to out shine our SW

My idea would be far more mundane, though.

M6| WS3| BS3| S3| T2| W1| I6| A1| Ld6

I actually like your ideas for special rules, the skink chief, one could be potent. Maybe make them -2AP and then just as my example S3. While T2 is very low, I think they could be an interesting fill the gap kind of melee choice. Maybe use them against slow unit where they would gain the most from their AP, rules and the "high" WS, with a skink chief present?

The +2 Cast for Skink priests is actually a pretty fair addition, with this sort of unit. The problem with this, is that they essential is a jack of all, master of none, type of unit. They're fast, but not that fast, their AP and potential for good Ws, but not that good in combat after all, only 1 attack and, at least in my case, only average Ld (Cold-blooded 6, might be slighty better than 7, though). However I feel like they would surely have there use, if they also had poison, only issue, who would take them without

I like the concept, probably not likely to exist, but I like them!

 

Just to be able to play a skink army as you can play a goblin army, I understand they would be a good addition. But the need for them isnt really there to make our army more balanced or anything like that. With the rules as we see now deathstars will be less powerfull (unit size restrictions, allways able to hit normal units) our saurus will be a better choice in 9th then in 8th.taking the recent math hammer for our saurus they already seemed to be more powerfull then most of us thought them to be. So again I don't really see the need of them.

 

I reckon their basically a fun addition, for the sake of argument; they could be interesting, with the rules suggested

I would Love to see a MC unit of our own, though! Something unique, yet very like this army. I was joking about a unit consiting of juvenile Carnosaur, ridden by almost Scar-veterans But that's not going to happen. Some kind of Saurus ridden, cool reptilian creature, maybe something to fill a gap, grant a new dimension or simply to make the choices of the army book more diverse. The Juvenile Carno, idea should obvious be a rare choice, hold in mind, that this is purely my wish listing, we are talking about. Anyway, such a unit could be a very fun and great looking unit, but so is all of our models it would probably mostly just fill the niche of our current, not so often used, Cold One riders,but do the job, better. So any MC should be handle with care; look what happen to the mighty Chaos knights, once they got a MC option.

 

That idea i support 100%

 

Well, I'm basically tired of never using my Carno models, so my mind set, easily wander into those thoughts

I think your idea is great too It's even worth a kitty cat

PS: I'm really not being sarcastic, I do like your concept of elites skinks; maybe small changes, as already suggested, though.

 

I don't understand this. This would be an addition to the army. Improved skink are well just another skink troop and this at the vost of SW imo. But hey everybody has an own opinion right

 

Core Skink Cavalry unit!

That's what we need.

 

@ pink taco

Your arguments are valid really I do understand where you are coming from. And the special rules were really cool. I as a player just wouldn't like it if skink fighters would outshine sw. We have skink units and bonus they are cheap bunkers. We have saurus as inf blocks and tg as elite inf blocks. We dont need more fighting blocks imo. I want to see saurus being played not skinks thats just it for me probably, just a personal feeling on it.

 

I think some armies that have monstrous cavalry, should not have it (that won't happen of course as the models are already made). MC would just fit Lizardmen IMO as a part of our army is about those lizards riding lizards, big dinos and all that.
Demigryphs for exmaple should not have been made (again IMO), most of that stuff (monsters) empire should not have had, they are humans, in a magic world yes, but still only humans.

 

I agree that we don't need them in the literal sense but they would give us a couple things that our army is lacking...

• fast cavalry
• more core diversity

Currently our closest fit to a unit like this is our Terradon riders, but I'd really like to see a more complete set of core options.

 

If you are going skink cav, give them the ability like they had in "Regiments of the Renown"
something like:
(Jungle miasma) When this unit flees it cannot be pursued.
(Feigned attack) This unit may flee after combat on the turn it charged.
and of course fast cavalry.

 

Completely agree with you there! If any one should have gotten unit like that, lizardmen would have been ideal, whereas other armies that got them, really didn't fit or needed them.

But Here's my add on, so to say, what about just make Cold One, something a like a mix MC and Cav unit?

Making them a little better offensive, and give them 2 wounds, perhaps. They defiantly looks more menacing than a horse. I know we did talk about this before, and I get that it might not be the time for such drastic changes, I just reckon it could be a nice way of diversifying our army choices from others. Perhaps with an addition of the old Cold One Skink riders as a Fast Cav unit, it could sync well with the army.

 

Actually thinking about this change, I believe it might be a great way to deal with a number of issues.

This would increase the potential for COC, it would give them 2W and let's say more killing power, just for the sake of argument. They would, of course, lose the +2AS and go to +3AS, but I reckon that the extra wound solves this, while also giving the unit a unique play style.

This would make the the Cold One a natural more expensive creature for characters, while not granting more than +1 to the overall AS and not even giving any additional wounds. So Cowboys probably not as useful as before

Depending on what they get for their offensive powers, they could serve purpose of different roles. I have little ideas of what is proper and what is just not useful or OP.

My take:

Cold One|M7|Ws3|Bs0|S5|T4|W2|I2|A3|Ld5| Cause fear, Cold-Blooded, Stupidity, Maybe something-something....

 

Our old bloods and skar vets would be even more powerfull, granted they would lose 1as (wich is for us not a real problem), and being more pts. Other simular troops like demi's do not get the possibility for heroes on these kind of mounts..

Edit* I've always found this a bit stupid though and would like to see this changed. Allowing for instance maximum 1 hero or lord to have a mount like this for the cost would that be so broken?