AoS General's Handbook finally announced !!

That's very true, I'd not thought of that. My compromise would be preventing any model within a bubble (say 1/2" or 1") of any enemy model from using its ranged weapons, with exceptions on a per-model basis for some fancy vehicles like Kharadron Ships or Lizardmen Steggies or whatnot. I'd also prevent artillery crew locked in melee from being able to handle the artillery at all.

 

I totally agree. If a shooting unit had a great defensive and melee profile, it would op. But generally, a ranged and magic units attack a maximum of 5 times, compared to a melee squad that can attack up to 10 times in a single game, and usually with greater damage potential.

We still use Line of sight, but its usually obscurred by an engaging melee unit.

 

Well it will disappear soon as it got engaged anyway, range units can hardly do anything close combat so it seems fair

 

Stormforged judicators have nearly the same profile as liberators... Hell with the crossbows they're potentially more dangerous in melee while not all that much squishier (the only difference is the shield, and that's only a re-roll on 1's)

 

And that's why we hate Stormcast Eternals... our only ally.

 

The chosen of the Old Ones neither need nor know allies.

 

There are some units that are clearly strong in both shooting/magic and combat and AFAIK they all got point increases this go around. Since I mostly play against my buddy's Sylvaneth I am most familiar with Kurnoth. They are indeed strong but a dedicated melee unit will still handle them decently well.

If I were to houserule shooting I'd do 40K style as several others here have done. I'd go with "units engaged in melee can only shoot at enemy units that have a model within 3" of the shooting unit and must select the closest enemy unit as the target." 40K pistols are modeled to work as an extra melee attack but given that melee range is shorter (1" versus 3") and the lack of weapon tags I'd go with the AoS ranges. This also allows for things like Skink screens to still protect your Kroxigor.

 

Does anyone understand the price increase of the old blood on foot. He went from 100 to 120 with a very poor offensive and defensive profile and the worst command ability in seraphon. His only saving grace is the rerolling wound rolls of 1 for MODELS within 5".

What am I missing?

 

damn just saw it was models within 5"
that makes it totally not worth it indeed. Only use is teleporting 40 saurus and using the command ability to get them 3'' closer

 

Is there a geberal handbook 2017 pdf file for me ro download? Due the book it will come to my country in couple weeks or maybe month

 

That is indeed a very good question. I wasn't even using him at 100 points, just didn't really worth it. Can't even begin to think about it but maybe veterans somehow use it and I ignore it ? All of the changes were towards really good balance, so it's either a typo or we definitely are missing something !

 

Well mostly the new points i want i have alrdy order it xD which is foing to cost me around 40 euros but is going to be super late and i want to have the new points at least xD

 

new points are in this post and in the 2017 summary post man, look around before you ask haha

 

Well aint got time for dat i would love to have a link or something with full point list tho :]

 

you just click Seraphon discussion on the bottom of the page and click on "Compilation of GHB2017 for Seraphon"
you could have found it in the time it took to post this...

 

Warscroll builder states each units points as well

 

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Ty for the link mate <|•ω•|>