Help Warhammer TV “Seraphon Flesh” tutorial results...

[Karnus]

I have recently gathered a large collection of lizardmen and was looking forward to getting stuck in painting then.

I did one as a tester model following the guide for seraphon flesh/scales on the warhammer YouTube page and I wasn’t happy with the results. The contrast between the temple guard blue and the washed sotek is too drastic.

Method as it stands:

- Spray whole model with mcragge blue

Back/rough scales (I am relatively happy with how this turned out, maybe a little dark?): Nuln oil wash and then drybrush with imrik blue.

Front/smooth scales: Solid base of Sotek Green, wash with seraphim sepia, highlights with temple guard blue.

The contrast between the washed Sotek Green and the temple guard blue is too harsh.

Could I get away with a drybrush of sotek over the wash and then highlight with temple guard blue for a smoother colour transition?

I am trying to keep it simple and easy as I have a lot of models to paint.

 

[Crowsfoot]

Welcome aboard,

Can you put a pic up of what your looking for and one of the model you painted?

The Warhammer TV guide uses different colours to what you have chosen so the results won't be the same.

Quickest way to paint large numbers is base, wash, drybrush

What paints/shades do you have currently?

For your chosen colours I would go,

Back/rough, leave as is.
Front/smooth, sotek, shade with coelia greenshade, drybrush temple guard blue

 

[Karnus]

Welcome aboard,

Can you put a pic up of what your looking for and one of the model you painted?

The Warhammer TV guide uses different colours to what you have chosen so the results won't be the same.

Quickest way to paint large numbers is base, wash, drybrush

What paints/shades do you have currently?

For your chosen colours I would go,

Back/rough, leave as is.
Front/smooth, sotek, shade with coelia greenshade, drybrush temple guard blue

Thank you - I have just realised I bought the wrong wash. No wonder it looks a little dodgy. I’ll need to go out and buy the correct wash for starters

I’ll post a picture tonight

 

[Karnus]

Ok, I thought I was using the wrong wash but turns out I am using coelia green shade and not seraphin sepia (no idea where I got that from).

Colour wise I found this AFTER I had bought the colours I’d need for the warhammer tutorial:

The colours pop nicely but I can’t justify buying more paints. I also realise that it will take more time than I am willing to dedicate to achieve the same effect.

I currently have:
Mcragge blue (spray can)
Imrik blue (dry)
Temple guard blue
Sotek Green
Coelia green shade
Nuln oil
Chaos black
Mephiston red
Evil suns scarlet
Earthrax earthshade
Gehenna gold
Leadbelcher
Mithril silver
Zandri dust
Screaming skull
Sunset yellow

My attempt so far:

It will probably come together when the details are in but it doesn’t pop as much as I’d like

 

[Crowsfoot]

Ok if your willing to try this on a model

Spray with Mcragge blue then shade the scales with Nuln oil, drybrush with Temple guard blue (all over), shade with Coelia green shade (just shade the skin) then highlight the scales with imrik blue and the skin with sotek green.

It's important to drybrush the skin before shading.

The picture you have put up of warriors looks like, Mcragge blue then shaded with drakenhoff nightshade highlighted with Lothern blue

 

[Karnus]

Ok if your willing to try this on a model

Spray with Mcragge blue then shade the scales with Nuln oil, drybrush with Temple guard blue (all over), shade with Coelia green shade (just shade the skin) then highlight the scales with imrik blue and the skin with sotek green.

It's important to drybrush the skin before shading.

The picture you have put up of warriors looks like, Mcragge blue then shaded with drakenhoff nightshade highlighted with Lothern blue

I’ll give it a bash tonight and post the results. I have half a unit that needs a methylated spirit bath anyway so any testers I’m unhappy with can join them

Edit: did you swap sotek and temple guard by mistake or is sotek the final highlight?

 

[Karnus]

I had a quick bash but I rushed it:

Brighter, but I went too heavy on the drybrush, lost some scales. I’m just too keen to settle on a colour scheme.

I might have to go down the buy brighter paint route. Thoughts?

 

[Crowsfoot]

I had a quick bash but I rushed it:

Brighter, but I went too heavy on the drybrush, lost some scales. I’m just too keen to settle on a colour scheme.

I might have to go down the buy brighter paint route. Thoughts?

Mix imrik and white 50/50 and highlight the scales again, mix sotek and white 60/40 and highlight the skin, drybrush the scales lightly and with the skin layer it follow the lines on the feet hands etc.

When you have done that re wash the scales with a 50/50 mix of nuln oil and water, you just want to get the scales to pop.

 

[Karnus]

Mix imrik and white 50/50 and highlight the scales again, mix sotek and white 60/40 and highlight the skin, drybrush the scales lightly and with the skin layer it follow the lines on the feet hands etc.

When you have done that re wash the scales with a 50/50 mix of nuln oil and water, you just want to get the scales to pop.

I will give it a bash tonight, thanks for your input so far.

On an aside I found the source for my saurus image (you were bang on with your guess at the colours used, how did you do that? ):

https://www.warpainter40k.com/age-of-sigmar-seraphon/

I actually own a fair few of the paints listed, but it looks like the scales have been individually highlighted, I don’t have time for that on an army of 80+ saurus

 

[Crowsfoot]

I will give it a bash tonight, thanks for your input so far.

On an aside I found the source for my saurus image (you were bang on with your guess at the colours used, how did you do that? ):

https://www.warpainter40k.com/age-of-sigmar-seraphon/

I actually own a fair few of the paints listed, but it looks like the scales have been individually highlighted, I don’t have time for that on an army of 80+ saurus

After a while you can spot the colours used, highlighting 80 warriors individually is faster than you think, if you did them in batches of say 10 I bet you could highlight them in an hour 6mins each so 8hrs to highlight them all.

You can drybrush them and then leave it at that you can always add more later when you have time, 99% of my models are tabletop quality and they look brilliant on the table.

 

[Karnus]

Ok, I bit the bullet and did some individual highlights (and bought some more paints, shhh don’t tell the wife):

Much happier with this, fine for a tabletop standard. Any C&C?

 

[Crowsfoot]

Ok, I bit the bullet and did some individual highlights (and bought some more paints, shhh don’t tell the wife):

Much happier with this, fine for a tabletop standard. Any C&C?

They look good so far, how long did the highlights take?

 

[Aginor]

Nice contrast. And I like the eyes.
I'd say a unit of those will look good on the table.

 

[Karnus]

Ok, I bit the bullet and did some individual highlights (and bought some more paints, shhh don’t tell the wife):

Much happier with this, fine for a tabletop standard. Any C&C?

They look good do far, how long did the highlights take?

I reckon the scales took about 10ish minutes which seems long but if I am doing them in batches I can see it going a lot quicker per model if I don’t have to swap paints and think about it too much.

Nice contrast. And I like the eyes.
I'd say a unit of those will look good on the table.

I hope so