Star Trek vs. Star Wars (and a collection of memes)

I disagree with you there, but each to his own.

 

I thought you might. I'm staying out of this one!

 

What did nightbringer think of The Last Jedi?

 

It was a fun watch... but there are many glaring holes in it. There are things I really liked and things I really disliked. Overall I enjoyed my experience, but my ultimate judgment will be made after seeing how things are tied into and resolved in Episode IX. The character Rose was absolutely terrible, but the Porgs were surprisingly well used and funny.

 

I agree Rose was terrible. And Finn got a side story where he is essentially in it to save his own skin because he defected from the Empire and then was about to defect from the Rebellion

 

I think the worst sequence in the film was that whole trip that Finn and Rose took to the casino planet. I've yet to talk to a person who said that they enjoyed that scene.

 

I thought it was OK - at least it was original. The things I didn’t like were Leia surviving in space (the cold vacuum of space as Rook calls it in Rogue One - they really should have killed her off there and then) and the fact that when Leia was able to force pull herself back into the ship and the others simply opened the door and let her in, they weren’t all sucked out into space too, which by all accords should have happened. Most of the other parts, however, were enjoyable, including the big surprise of Snoke getting killed off in the middle of the trilogy and Yoda appearing as a Force spirit. I also liked the portrayal of Luke in that fact that he is still extremely powerful and yet he chooses to save his friends rather than annihilate the First Order is what a Jedi would do.

 

I think the way I see it is that in keeping Leia alive, Rian Johnson choose to put the actress before the character, and give Carrie Fisher a proper send off and make the most of all her scenes, rather than do what would have necessarily been the logical choice in terms of the character

 

But it does produce plot complications in Episode IX. It would have been better to just not have even attempted to blow her up in the first place if he didn't want Leia to die. Either have her blown up and killed or just not blown up at all.

 

But this is a space drama, after all

 

I'm sorry but it is one thing too ridiculously silly even for sci-fi. Look at Battlestar Galactica 2004 - it is a sci-fi drama and yet whenever one of the characters gets sucked out into space (which is pretty often), they die if they don't have a spacesuit on. Leia didn't have a spacesuit on, so by all accords, she should have died. Somehow she has gained a Jar Jar-level of survivability.

 

So your saying she's a sith Lord then?

 

How many times do I need to say this? Jar Jar isn't a Sith!

 

By all accords she should have died before she had the chance to use the Force, that's what I'm saying.

 

So you're telling me that Leia being able to reach out to pull herself back on board her ship while in space with no air to breathe at all and in freezing temperatures is realistic? And furthermore having Poe and the others open the door and not getting sucked out into space themselves, despite there being a massive hole at that spot that Admiral Ackbar and company had been sucked out of a minute before?

 

Then you are the first one who has told me that they found that scene bearable. Everyone I know who has watched the movie has hated it. You could literally pull that scene out of the movie and not miss a thing. It was a complete was of time, poorly thought out and poorly acted.

That scene felt awkward as hell.

You don't even need to say it once!