Discussion Should Lustria have long necked dinosaurs?

considering that we have concept art (and even a scrapth built figure based off said art) of such creatures, yes.

 

I definitely think that long necks have a place in Lustria. I also feel that you are underplaying their ability to defend themselves. Their defense is their sheer bulk. If the Carnosaur was the same size as a long neck, the long necks would stand no chance. But they are not the same size. If we look at the T-Rex, it is was considerably smaller than the long necks. As such, they were not easy prey to bring down unless they were really young, old or sick. In the modern day, consider the Elephant, who even without tusks is an extremely formidable foe due to its immense size and weight. A long neck does not need to bite to defend itself, it can crash into predators, trample them and tail whip them (and that is an awfully big tail).

 

to give you an idea, a clip from the Ballad of Big Al. Big Al, an Allosaurus, is about the same size as the plastic Carnosaur. a human (or saurus) would come up to about his knees.


sauropods can easily use their necks and tails as bludgeons to knock over enemies, and their size makes them hard to bring down at all unless they are are already weak in some way or the predators get lucky. and Apatosaurs are the medium sized sauropods, most were far larger. and that is the real world ones.. in Lustria most dinosaur like critters are substantially more massive than real life. making it possible for a lustrian long-neck to easily be in the 'walking blue whale' category.

plus they don't have to be defenseless aside from their necks and tails.. Titanosaurs (which produced some of the largest land animals ever) had thick armor, while Dicraeosaurs had extensive arrays of defensive spikes along their necks and back. one recently found species, the Bajadasaurus, had its neck spikes forward facing, in an arrangement that would make it a very effective predator deterrent.

 

I dont think a carno would win this many fights, it would probably be more relevant to today's animals such as a tiger, probably winning 1 in every 3 or 4, If you think about it a whole herd of stegadons could easily deter a carno and impale it enough that it would die meaning it isn't worth the risk. I think carnosaurs would be hunting babies or other small animals the size of a kroxigor not as big as them.

 

I totaly agree, the trait would be negated by the size of the jungles, I think they would live near the jungle but not in it in openings and plains such as the cuchan plains and swaps would also be viable since they can easily pass through them with their size and don't have to worry about predators as much. although who knows what lives in lustrias swamps I bet their is some kinda sarcasucus/croc type thing

 

I have always pictured the Thunder Lizards as the longnecked dinosaurs if lustria and they are supposed to be enormous, probably way too big for a Carnosaur to feasibly kill.

Anything small and longnecked would need some kind of defense that is not its size. They could have claws like a Therizinosaurus, armorplating or spikes like and ankylosaur maybe. Alternatively a spiked tail like a Stegosaurus or they could just be speedy, but would then be quite small probably.

 

One of my favorite sketches of a thunderlizard:

 

Really, didn't know that, I just thought he was a very big bugger and nothing special beyond that

 

I do like the idea of long-necked dinosaurs, even it they were super huge/Thunder Lizard sized.

I agree, this is the picture that I refer too when I think of thunder lizards/what I think they should look like. Fortunately for us, @Struan Murray has already painted one!

If I had a chance to add any long-necked dinosaurs to my army, I would want to build some platforms on their backs so they could be used as siege weapons.

I always liked this one, it was based off a star wars dewback toy.

 

I have already seen it , it's amazing he did such a good job.

 

This is a Species I use as a sub species of Thunder Lizard for the Dragon Isles actually and also for the Culuchan (sp) plains in southern Lustria (@Nazqua has done a fabulous job fleshing out this region in his blog)

Going to read through this as Id love to give my thoughts as a avid lover ajd supporter of Sauropds for Lizardmen and Seraphon and have them in my own personal fluff.

 

I like that “Spikeydeathosaurus” drawing.

I think there should several kinds; some of them should be harnessed as cargo haulers. Their typical environment would be swamps overhung by large trees.

 

Well I have knowledge about zoology and dinosaurs sos I my time has came. The main defense of large animals is exactly it’s bulk and in the case of the long neck dinosaurs it’s tails the main example would be the seismosaurus a long necked dinosaur with a long muscled tail as soon of one of this beasts feel endangered I suppose it will swing its tail to hit its atackers. and also (if we take a carnosaur as the size of a t-rex) they will be too big to being hunted down by a single one maybe a acient carnosas(like grymloq) or a family of 2 or three could try to hunt one but I think the the main predators of the long necked dinosaurs would be the almighty dreadsaurians.


A bout being hunted down by our lizard brothers I think it would make sense: skinks staving the legs of the creature the kroxigor roaring and throwing rocks and ryperdactyls biting the necks of the creatures(¿maybe the regiment of renown of total war warhammer two received its name “colossadon hunters” because hunting down this long necked dinosaurs?) and i agree with the acuatic eviormemnt and spiky back



Postdata:I love thunder lizard diorama

 

Absolutely glorious that model