Tutorial Seraphon List for Battletome 2.o

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  1. ILKAIN
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    but you could run 30 rippers for 800 points....while giving GW 600 of your dollars lol
     
    ILKAIN, Mar 25, 2020
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  2. DeathBringer125
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    Would probably do that. When using Kroak do I try and keep him back out of range and use starpriest to channel spells? Keep in mind I fight Khorne and LoN mostly so they have lots of MW's to try and nuke him with. Or do I get him up close with the guard to take his damage
     
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    Kroak Meeting Engagement

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    - Starborne
    - Dracothion's Tail

    Spearhead:
    Terradon Chief     (70)
    - General
    - Command Trait: Nimble
    - Artefact: Godbeast Pendant

    Main Body:
    Lord Kroak     (320)
    - Spell: Stellar Tempest
    5 x Saurus Guard (100)
    6 x Terradon Riders (180)
    - Sunleech Bolas

    Rearguard:
    8 x Salamander Hunting Pack (160)
    8 x Salamander Hunting Pack (160)

    Total: 990 / 1000
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Wounds: 64

    I feel like Dracothion's tail and Coalesced will be the go to Subfactions for Meeting Engagement. I am by no means an expert on ME tactics or list building. I have played it all of 6 times.

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    LizardWizard, Mar 25, 2020
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    Koatl's Claw Meeting Engagement

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    - Coalesced
    - Koatl's Claw

    Spearhead:
    Skink Starpriest     (120)
    - Spell: Celestial Harmony
    5 x Saurus Knights (100)
    - Lances

    Main Body:
    Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur     (250)
    - General
    - Command Trait: Dominant Predator
    - Artefact: Eviscerating Blade
    20 x Saurus Warriors (180)
    - Clubs

    Rearguard:
    8 x Salamander Hunting Pack (160)
    8 x Salamander Hunting Pack (160)

    Total: 970 / 1000
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Wounds: 70

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    LizardWizard, Mar 25, 2020
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    I would play it on a match by match basis. The Starpriest can be added in case you need the casting vector. The Guard are there to help vs alpha strikes and to let kroak walk up table.
     
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  6. NecridHydra
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    Yeah, I have some models at home and I love their design so I'd like to have a list to use them without being a Slann shield.

    I've heard they are pretty tough, like tanking this dwarf hero on a dragon for a couple of turns.
     
    NecridHydra, Mar 25, 2020
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    Point per wound and damage Saurus Warriors are better and have easy access to decent battalions. In general Saurus Guard will be less efficient than Gaurd. In part because you will want to bring some form of a battalion in order to gain access to Aetherquartz Brooch.

    All that being said, here is a list focused on Saurus Guard:

    Koatl's Claw Saurus Guard and Firelance

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    - Constellation: Koatl's Claw
    - Mortal Realm: Hysh

    Leaders:
    Saurus Sunblood     (130)
    - General
    - Command Trait: Dominate Predator
    - Artefact: Eviscerating Blade
    Saurus Scar-Veteran on Cold One (110)
    Saurus Astrolith Bearer (140)
    - Artefact: Aetherquartz Brooch
    Lord Kroak (320)
    Skink Starseer (140)
    - Spell: Celestial Harmony
    Skink Starpriest (120)
    - Spell: Hand of Glory

    Battleline:
    20 x Saurus Guard (400)
    5 x Saurus Knights (100)
    - Lances
    5 x Saurus Knights (100)
    - Lances
    5 x Saurus Knights (100)
    - Lances

    Units:
    6 x Salamander Hunting Pack (160)

    Battalions:
    Firelance Temple-host     (160)

    Total: 1980 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 1
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 129

    Edited list after talking myself into a new direction :D

    List would almost certainly be better with a unit of 40x Saurus Warrior and Bound Geminids than 20x Saurus Guard.

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    LizardWizard, Mar 25, 2020
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  8. Just A Skink
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    Do you prefer the Oldblood on Carno as opposed to on foot? I know two carnos are awesome, but I guess I worry about him getting sniped. Is that really a concern?
     
    Just A Skink, Mar 25, 2020
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    I like both. I think if I took it in the Kroak direction I would change out to an Oldblood on foot.

    Sunblood might also be a better candidate for the Eviscerating blade.
     
    LizardWizard, Mar 25, 2020
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    Okay, Changed the list. LOL. Got talked into a better build :D

    Also realized that an Oldblood is pointless for buffing Saurus Guard in Koatl's Claw.
     
    LizardWizard, Mar 25, 2020
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    And Oldblood is never pointless if he is on a carnosaur!
     
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    Xiuhtecuhtli, Mar 26, 2020
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  13. LizardWizard
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    I am still not a huge fan of the Dread Suarian. He is okay in coalesced where he can become fairly tanky. The model is amazing, but as a unit he feels to inefficient a point investment. Maybe something along the lines of this:

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    - Constellation: Coalesced

    Leaders:
    Skink Starseer     (140)
    - General
    - Command Trait: Master of Star Rituals
    - Artefact: Cloak of Feathers
    - Spell: Hand of Glory
    Lord Kroak (320)
    Saurus Astrolith Bearer (140)

    Battleline:
    5 x Saurus Guard (100)
    5 x Saurus Guard (100)
    5 x Saurus Guard (100)

    Units:
    12 x Salamander Hunting Pack (240)
    12 x Salamander Hunting Pack (240)

    Behemoths:
    Dread Saurian     (510)

    Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs:
    Chronomantic Cogs     (80)

    Total: 1970 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 119
     
    LizardWizard, Mar 26, 2020
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  14. Xiuhtecuhtli
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    @LizardWizard Thanks! I'm gonna give it a try. Tbh I don't think anyone runs a Dread Saurian for efficiency - I'm just glad he isn't 100% worthless like he was before
     
    Xiuhtecuhtli, Mar 27, 2020
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  15. NecridHydra
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    Thanks you very much. I'll give it a try as soon as I can play with my friends.
     
    NecridHydra, Mar 27, 2020
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    You could always go crazy and drop the Salamander Hunting Packs to bring a second Dreadsaurian.
     
    LizardWizard, Mar 27, 2020
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  17. Skained
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    In meeting you can't use a double unit in Spearhead
     
    Skained, Mar 27, 2020
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    Oh, thanks for the catch. Swapped them from theSpearhead to the Main Body :D

    Should be good now.
     
    LizardWizard, Mar 27, 2020
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  19. Bartuk
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    The Mainbody can only have double sized Battleline.

    I am not sure if you can fit all the bases in the deployment zone. :-/

    (And i think Terradons feed too many easy wounds to your oponent. It is the same problem we have with skinks since the start of MEs.)

    I think coalescend is the way to go for meeting engagements.
     
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    Bartuk, Mar 28, 2020
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    Could well be. Fitting the bases shouldn't be too hard since you only have to fit up to half the base and the rest can hang over though.

    I don't have my GHB2019 with me. What are the rules for deployment into reserves?
     
    LizardWizard, Mar 28, 2020
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