8th Ed. 1+ Armour save

[sevensevensare49]

I was scanning through an enemy's army book and noticed one of their Magic items confers a 1+ armour save to the wearer. I thought 1 was a failed save regardless so would that mean it's actually a 2+ save?

 

[Stonecutter]

It is given as 1+ so that higher strength hits can be saved a little better than if it were 2+. Essentially, anything S4 and under saves on a 2+ but yes, a 1 always fails.

 

[sevensevensare49]

oh I see, because of the strength modifier (i was forgetting that). So for instance against an S5 opponent , it'd be 3+ right? and S6 4+ ?

 

[strewart]

oh I see, because of the strength modifier (i was forgetting that). So for instance against an S5 opponent , it'd be 3+ right? and S6 4+ ?

Yep exactly. And 1+ armour is now the best you can get. Before that restriction was in place, I had a HE character with a -1 armour save.

 

[BEEGfrog]

oh I see, because of the strength modifier (i was forgetting that). So for instance against an S5 opponent , it'd be 3+ right? and S6 4+ ?

Yep exactly. And 1+ armour is now the best you can get. Before that restriction was in place, I had a HE character with a -1 armour save.

You used to be able to get an old blood down to -2 on a cold one but it was an academic exercise as it was a lousy build as you had to spend the entire magic allowance to do it.