That's true, Chaos is very average in the magic phase, but I'd say they are good enough. Obviously shooting is not their thing, although I've decimated armies before with my 3 Hellcannons (@3000pts) . So they're left with movement and close combat. Fortunately for them, together those two elements are the most reliable way to win a game. Magic is fickle and shooting can't usually match the devastation that can be unleashed through close combat. I think if you gave WoC access to core skink skirmishers, they would absolutely wreck face! If I could cherry pick one unit from the Lizardmen book into my WoC list, it would be skinks. Nearly anything else we have, they have something that is better... Saurus warriors < Chaos Warriors Old Blood < Unkillable Lord Stegadon < Gorebeast Chariot (considering their relative points costs) Kroxigor < Trolls or Skullcrushers Cold One Cav < Chaos Knights Troglodon < Hellcannon Bastiladon < Chimera Temple Guard < Chaos Warriors or Chosen Back on topic... would a 3+ armour save, musician and access to a Krox special character put Kroxigor on par with Trolls or Ogres or <insert MI or MC unit>?