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KoW Any Salamander Fluff?

Discussion in 'Salamanders Discussion' started by The Sauric Ace, Mar 19, 2016.

  1. The Sauric Ace
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    The Sauric Ace Well-Known Member

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    That is actually really interesting. Thanks!
     
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  3. BAE
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    That is incredibly interesting! I've been reading more around the area and it turns out there are examples of warm-bloodedness in reptiles, as well as theories that some dinosaurs were warm blooded.

    Argentine black and white tegu (seasonally warm blooded lizard)
     
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  4. BAE
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    Wait, I'm pretty sure Mantic have contradicted themselves. In the Mantic Blog entitled "Who are the Salamanders?" it describes Salamanders (the race) as 'hot blooded throughout"...

    https://manticblog.com/2016/03/31/15500/

    Am I reading one of the texts wrong??
     
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  5. pendrake
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    Yes.

    Salamanders are a sub-set of Reptilieans.

    Therefore there can be units in the army that are merely warm-blooded or possibly cold-blooded. But the army is principally composed of the fiery-blooded (we needed a new term) Salamanders, for whom the faction is named.
     
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  6. Jack Trowell
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    Also note that "hot blooded" is not the same "warm blooded"
     
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    By 'Salamanders (the race)' I was meaning the salamander subset of Reptilians. The two quotes in full are:

    (From the blog)
    "In the years since, the reptilians have thrived. Not just Salamanders, but Gekkotah, Arkosaurs and many more scaled allies besides. The Salamanders remain at the forefront of their armies, naturally suited to combat and hot-blooded throughout."

    (From the Unchartered Empires fluff, where the Salamanders, Ghekkotah and Arkosaurs subsets are described separately in different sections)
    "Once warm-blooded, the curse of Winter was to instil a chill in their hears so that they are now almost entirely reptiles themselves, being cold-blooded like their peers."

    To me they both clearly pertain to the Salamander subset, as opposed to the 'Salamanders' as an army.

    I understand that their blood 'burns with great heat', but that provides no evidence as to whether they are endothermic (and therefore are generating this extreme heat themselves) or ectothermic (and therefore are absorbing the extreme heat from the volcanoes to maintain hot blood). As per the conversation earlier in the thread, the majority of information points to the latter description, which is why I was confused that the blog stated they were 'hot-blooded'. Unless by 'hot-blooded' they are meaning 'cold-blooded but kept hot by the volcanoes'?
     
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    As per my last message I did notice the distinction! I concede that this could be the definition, but I can't see many people reading 'hot-blooded' as 'cold-blooded but warmed by very hot volcanoes'...!
     
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  9. The Sauric Ace
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    It's more than a little confusing, I grant you that. Though I believe, from the context, that's how it's suppose to be understood ;)
     
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  11. mattjgilbert
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    Hey! That's as official as you can get :p
     
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    Nice to see you on board Matt
     
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    Nice to be here :)
     
  14. Itepixcauh
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    Its great to have some Official Mantic presence around here, welcome aboard!
     
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    Yeah, that is pretty neat :D
     
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  16. Jack Trowell
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    Hi Matt !

    ^_^
     
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    I have a feeling that we will see them in the army as the basis of Corsairs, so a single unit option for them.
     
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    Arkosaurs (and other lizard races) are also a nice way to allow you to use different models from other ranges, eitheir as alternatives for existing units in the list (the unblooded for exemple might simply represent another specie instead of being young salamanders) or as various allies
     
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