9th Age Discussion of OpenHammer (ETC) and Ninth Age (Swedish Comp)

They would be better offensive, but more fragile. I'm thinking that the general reason why they are considered so OP, is the easy access to +1AS, combined with other defensive tools. Without easy access to the +1AS it would perhaps make for a more well rounded character. Bare in mind, they are slow, so they rely heavily upon such saves to be durable.

 

NO!

 

How?, they grant no AS? +5AS Scaly Scale +4 with shield, +2 with Heavy armour.... Am I missing something?

My main concerned is, that every time I see a lizard update, it seems to be a nerf to the current situation. This might be a more so-so case, by it self, But I am seriously considering leaving this concept if such a streak continues -.-

 

*Sigh* Yeah I guess ....

I was just looking forward to S7 with the option of not dying at every canon shot....

I'm defiantly exaggerating here, since it was simply my wish thinking, that we would ever see a competitive good Carnosaur.

 

Combined profiles...

 

I don't really like these arbitrary distinctions. I would have preferred that the whole thing got cleaned up uniformly.

I wonder what will happen with the Manticore.

 

Honestly I dont see how they could have cleaned up monsters, there are so many of them and the difference between them is huge. This allows scarvets/oldbloods to viably take the carno. Give it a 4+ ward or mabye a charmed shield, you got yourself a great killer right there. The old carno doesnt have shit on the new one.

I dont see how the lustrian javelins are changed, because they are a completely different weapons. Lustrian Javelin does not equal normal javelins.

Its also important to understand that all armies are reciveing nerfs, as they have stated several times nerfs are a priority over buffs.

Also nothing is final, the best thing we can do is to playtest and give feedback. They're trying to make a game for the community, not trying to play gods.

 

It would seem that this is actually a more positive change, than I felt when I first read it. Not that I have change my mind or anything, but I just see where you guys are coming from. The option of having both ward and great AS for the Carno, seem great. It just bugs me that it has to be given with the loss of offensive power.
Also they are frenzy from the get go, which means more Attacks, with less control. I know I want my carnosaur in CC, it would just be easier now to force the carno into useless bunkers of meat shields....

I know I'm whining here they made a general great change, and all I'm seeing is the change in a few stats

 

• nerf cannons
• adjust points costs for weaker monsters
  
• award victory points for killing the rider or the monster
• cannons randomize who they hit (rider or monster)

They are definitely far more potent than before.

 

It would seem that the carnosaur has been renamed. Just a small observation.

 

They have to rename most things because of copyright, so you will probably see new names for most things.

 

Nerfing cannons is tricky, reading through the discussion on the forums makes me even more unsure of what we actually want to nerf.
I agree, that they could have also done that.
interesting idea.
This they should really add, so it atleast doesnt hit both of them.

 

That's true. It is difficult to make concrete judgements when only snippets of information is available.

Either way, there is little on the line. It doesn't cost anything at all and we're free to ignore it an stick with 8th if it isn't to our liking.

 

You know what, having thought on this, I really don't have a problem with the change at all.

Being able to take a super cowboy actually sounds like fun. Totally worth losing a point in strength and 1 wound.