8th Ed. Does Vanguard Count Toward Who Gets the +1?

[Stonecutter]

Our local group has always played it that vanguard does impact the +1 to go first but after playing out of town I discovered we seemed to be in the minority. The only rules to support this are by elimination and inference based on the following FAQs:

Q: Must units with the Vanguard deployment special rule be
moved before the roll to see who gets the first turn? (p79)
A: Yes.


Q: Do units that are deployed as Scouts count toward determining
who finished deploying their army first? (p79)
A: No.

Just wondering what other people's views are before I discuss with our local group.

 

[hdctambien]

Units that have vanguard are deployed during normal deployment, so they do count towards the +1 for who goes first. But the act of moving the vanguarding units does not.

Deployment goes like this:

1. Take turns deploying non-scout units
-- first player to deploy Characters gets +1 to the "go first roll"

2. Roll off to see who gets to place scouts first
-- take turns deploying scouts

3. Roll off to see who gets to vanguard first
-- take turns vanguarding units

4. Roll off to see who takes first turn (the +1 was derived from step 1 above)

5. Play game!

 

[Stonecutter]

@HDCT: Thanks, that makes it really simple to understand. Hard to believe we were doing it different looking at it laid out in that nice, orderly fashion. I feel like Homer now, Doh!!!