They are mistaken, if something is start of hero phase the player who's turn it is has control over the order of those abilities. Check rule 16.2 for further clarification! As far as I know the battle tactic or heroic action section doesn't specify that these actions take place outside of that general rule as they both just say "at the start of the hero phase" with no additional stipulations.
If they had to be done before other start of the battle phase actions I would think the rule would say "before the start of the hero phase".
thanks, I will make sure to be able to reference that in future if it comes up. There were other bad tactical choices, it wasnt just trying to get that battle tactic. But I am enjoying the metamorph spell as a back up to get it
I get it but you need the ressources to do what you plan to do. I play every weekend against Lumineth ans Tzeench and each battle depend on the balance list of my opponent How do you take back an objective if you cannot kill what it is on or be more numerous ? Thé list has not a lot of control or lethality Same with killing a battleline or thé général, same with grand strategy
Ton of lethality. Knights are great with a few buffs, as are carnos and engine. Slann, chamo and realmshaper do work on heroes. Plenty of damage in the list, especially against lumineth and tzeentch.
I am sorry but it's not true Knight Can Do few mw with starpriest yes but Carno lack of rend against Lumineth, Slaan is easy to dispell, EothG is only Rng
You're simplifying the argument too much. The list obviously works. Is it going to work 100% of the time into 100% of thr lists on 100% of the battleplans? No, but nothing does. It has plenty of tools to deal with enough in the right players hands to go 5-0 at a massive tournament playing against good players. There's more to playing the game than list design. Damage output against lumineth and tzeentch is largely not an issue as those armies are relatively squishy. Tzeentch especially.