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AoS General's Handbook finally announced !!

Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by Seraphage, Jun 26, 2017.

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  1. Aginor
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    I tend to say it is just fluff. Making them named would make those bataillons very bad. I am pretty sure with named characters they mean those with names on their warscrolls.

    As for the Carnosaur: yeah it makes it slightly weaker. But not that much I think, those riders do quite some damage themselves. I wouldn't call it a nerf.

    Edit: ...except when buffing knights maybe. But those also became cheaper, so... meh. Could be worse.
     
    Aginor, Aug 27, 2017
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  2. Nielspeterdejong
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    So our Oldblood on Carno can't use his Command ability on his Jaws attacks anymore?
     
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  3. Jonas Andersen
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    the allies that seraphon has is ONLY stormcast eternals, so unless it's an SC unit you pick as an ally, you lose the alliegance
     
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  4. Wazz
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    @Jonas Andersen oh yeah! Thanks for catching my mistake! And I agree them having a name is just for fluff reasons since it isnt oart of their warscroll
     
    Wazz, Aug 27, 2017
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  5. tom ndege
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    tom ndege Well-Known Member

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    Good thing. With Slann being named characters would have been way too bad...
     
    tom ndege, Aug 27, 2017
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  6. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Ok guys I think I may have found something important:

    I just looked up the part about mounts in my GHB2017, I have the German version.
    And interestingly, that paragraph mentions artefacts and command traits (German: Generalseigenschaften), and NOT command abilities (German: Befehlsfähigkeiten). Which also makes more sense to be honest since those pages are about allegiance and traits.
    Command abilities don't have to do much with that.

    So please can anyone post this on Facebook asking for a clarification? Because this might either be a translation error in the German version, or an error in the original English version that was already fixed for the German one (translations often already contain some fixes).

    Fingers crossed for command traits being meant and not command abilities.
     
    Aginor, Aug 27, 2017
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  7. Mune
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    I would always go with the english version.

    Btw. cant you ask on fb on your own? :)
     
    Mune, Aug 28, 2017
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  8. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Nope I don't use Facebook. So unless they have other channels of communication I am unfortunately left out there.

    As for the book:
    Normally I would also go for the English version, but I share it with my friends and not everyone can read english that well.
    Besides: The translations are - with very few exceptions - very well done in GW products as far as I can tell.

    Since the chance for this being a typo in the English version is high (command trait vs. command ability) while being very low in German (Generalseigenschaften vs. Befehlsfähigkeiten) and every other paragraph on that page is solely about artefacts and command traits I am actually quite sure that they meant to write command trait and this is an error in the English version.

    Otherwise that would mean that Command Traits can be used for mount weapons, while Command Abilities wouldn't. That's absurd IMO.
     
    Aginor, Aug 28, 2017
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  9. scubrat
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    It got posted on here yesterday (page 30), the English version doesn't mention command traits, but does mention artefacts and command abilities. So sounds like a mix up.
     
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  10. Aginor
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    I know, originally I didn't even read that paragraph in my German book, because I had read it here on Lustria.
    I wanted to show it to a friend because it would seriously nerf Orruks (Gore-Gruntas, Maw-Krusha, and all other cavalry units like Savage Boarboyz would not really profit much from the Waagh anymore! Also a serious nerf for many other armies) and that's when I noticed the difference. I looked back at the English version and then back to German and thought: OK, I am SURE the english one is wrong, that can't be true and it doesn't fit the rest of the page.
     
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  11. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Also fun fact: The Scar-Veteran on Cold One's warscroll is gone from the app?? LOL. They seem to have a few problems with that.
     
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  12. Wazz
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    @Aginor ok cool I am not crazy! I saw that too and was like am I going insane? It was there then poof! Lol. I used him the other night with the blade of realities worked pretty well. Took on 10 wildriders with mystic shield, killed 5 before he went down. Wanderers(Wood elves) are really strong again. Just curious has anyone thought of running double shadowstrike starhosts before?
     
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  13. Wazz
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    Maybe they mean just the riders are affected not their mounts? I can see that being fair, sucks for our carnosaur though.
     
    Wazz, Aug 28, 2017
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  14. GreenyRepublic
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    Picking up my GHB pre-order today along with a Skink Starpriest. Because I'm lazy and impatient could somebody fill me in on what the new Seraphon artifacts are?
     
    GreenyRepublic, Aug 28, 2017
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  15. Kadanga
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    I am considering this for a 1500pt game, instead of one unit of 6 rippers I'll have two of 3 that can apply preassure on different parts of the map. I havn't quited boned out the details but I'll make a post of it when I do.
     
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  16. Mark Sinosich
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    Look at page 26 of this thread.
     
    Mark Sinosich, Aug 28, 2017
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  17. Wazz
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    @Kadanga awesome definitely keep me posted!
     
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  18. Nielspeterdejong
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    So any update? Is the Scar vet on cold one gone?
     
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    Slann

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    Nope, it's still there and it costs 100 pts.
     
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  20. Aginor
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    That's not the point. I am...halfway... fine with the artefacts and command TRAITS not affecting mounts' weapons. I am just pretty sure that the wording of that paragraph is wrong since it doesn't mention command TRAITS but says command ABILITIES.
     
    Aginor, Aug 28, 2017
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