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AoS General's Handbook finally announced !!

Not yet.
But the Alliance stuff sounds interesting. 400 points of Allies in 2k points allowed. So I guess we can now take Stormcast as allies so we can win?
Aleguzzler in Ironjawz armies is one of the examples they mentioned.

Tomorrow some Death info. I am a bit excited and hopeful now.
 
the previous leaks were that Necroknights will go from 160 to 240, and the royal Warsphinx will cost 100 more points. And SSC goes from 120 to 160.
That would be awesome. I really hope those rumours turn out to be true.
 
Of course, the lack of Deathrattle allegiance, could mean that Deathrattle is likely to get a real battletome. :p
Hopefully that the focus of such a battletome will be placed on the Vampire counts as their models are still in production. It makes fiscal sense for GW to shift the focus away from TK.
 
Absolutely true.
That's also probably the reason for points increase for TK, and decrease for Fyreslayers.

If Dan Heelan is to be believed that was not their motivation at all. The troubles with TK had them on the planned ban list for SCGT until the community team offered up a preview of the revised points as a way to keep them in the biggest AoS tournament.
 
I quite like the Stormcasts as well. They were my introduction to Age of Sigmar and Warhammer in general. I like the models and The backstory seemed cool as well. In fact, before I discovered how much I liked Seraphon, they were going to be my main army. Bear in mind that then (and now) I could probably count the number of games I had played on my hands, so play style and OPness wasn't a factor (and to be honest hasn't been at all. After all, if you're spending your own money on models, why shouldn't get the ones you like the most just because in the game they play in a way that others aren't good at countering. It's your models, get the ones you like, not the ones that are considered 'fair').

I was going to build up a SCE army, and then get the Sylvaneth and Seraphon Start Collecting as almost like support armies (Sylvaneth are another controversial army I like. Again, I don't give a damn how they play. It's my money and I'll spend it on the models I like, not the models my opponent wants me to get because my army is thrashing his). I ended up receiving some of the Stormcast stuff I wanted, and the Seraphon box (I also wanted a couple of the other Sylvaneth and Seraphon models, so I had a Bastilodon as well). I started building them and discovered I preferred Seraphon, so that's how I switched. But I still get Stormcast Eternal stuff. I finished my current Seraphon goal - a Starbeast Constellation, so now I'm finishing my Stormcast collection by getting the stuff I need for the Guardians of the Realmgate Battalion.

So yeah, I like the Stormcast. I was new to Warhammer in general and and Age of Sigmar was the one I liked most, and Stormcast Eternals were the ones that grabbed me out of all of them as the ones I liked most within the range. And I still like them now. I know you all hate them because they have a lot of focus and are like Space Marines. I agree that they do get a highly disproportionate amount of coverage and releases compared to all the other factions, although I must admit I really like all their new models that they received. However, they are the mascots of Age of Sigmar, so some extra coverage is to be expected. The story is told mostly from their point of view and they are the overall 'good guys'. They also are like Space Marines because the Space Marines are the mascot of Games Workshop, so they want the mascot of AoS to echo that. And at least for things like the Starter Set, they want equivalents between both 40k and Sigmar for new players. So you have Space Marines and Stormcast Eternals v Chaos Space Marines and Khorne Bloodbound. The figure types are the same as well (evil hordes, evil monster, heroic foot soldiers that are fewer in number, second in commands with banners etc), so to give new players a choice that isn't bias to either game. And once you have something in the Starter Set, you might as well focus on it, as it is new players introduction to the game, and they are more likely to want to expand it. So that's why they get extra focus. However, I definitely agree that Games Workshop take it way too far.

That just about concludes my unreasonably long rant justifying mine and anyone else's liking of the Stormcast Eternals, and just about any other hated faction. Sorry to to those who sat sat down and read that far too long chunk of writing, but at least you know why I like them, and hopefully you now agree that although you might not like playing against it, there is nothing wrong with anyone's choice. It's their money and they can spend it how they like. If you don't like how they spent it, you can bugger off and play with someone your army can thrash without needing to use your brain, because I am making out said person who is against an army to be doing it because they are a dick. Feel free to do the same though to those who pick an army due to them wanting to beat everyone and aren't sporting. If you want an army due to you liking the models see above with the whole 'their money they choose how to spend it.' If you want an army to be unsportsmanlike, see the 'bugger off' part. But the 'your money you spend it' part still applies.

Sorry, even the conclusion to that was long. I hope you get my point and that I didn't come across seeming high and mighty, or offensive to people, or acting like you're doing something or saying something you're not. This doesn't apply to everyone. If I did do any of that, or anything else along those lines, it wasn't my intention. But yeah, I hope you get my point and that this has changed a few minds about army selection. Again, sorry for the stupidly long post.

I don't hate them - I think they look decent with their Corinthian-style helmets, Dragon Monstrous Cavalry and Gryph-Hound and Aetherwing companions. I especially like the new hunter ones recently released with the Lord Aquillor and Vanguard Palladors. I've been writing unofficial rules for them in 8th Edition as another 'monstrous army'. True, they do look a lot like Space Marines but they're less grimdark - you could look at Space Marines as evil nationalists, the way they mercilessly slaughter alien populations even if they are peaceful cultures, whereas the Eternals are true 'good guys', valiant, chivalrous super knights who are ready to steamroller some Chaos scum. Certainly I was far more annoyed by GW making Chaos win in the End Times than bringing in the Stormcasts. I also agree that GW do give them more glory than the other races and it's a bit boring, but they recently dedicated not one but two consecutive issues of monthly White Dwarf to the Kharadron Overlords when they were released (April and May 2017 - April introduced them for the first time and May saw the minis being released and the lore being further examined. Furthermore, the White Dwarf birthday battle report featured Fyreslayers and Kharadron Overlords, my two fave factions in AoS, where they squashed Nurgle and battered the Ironjawz, although I'm pleased to say that Nurgle was the one that was truly hammered!). No other individual army has had such pomp and ceremony recently.


I agree with everything you say friend :) - I only collect armies because I like the Lore or I like the models or both, not for competitive purposes, and any games I do play are friendly games with my mates and relatives, and I hate to see people with game breaking armies, like one of the Games Workshop I played against with my Lizardmen - he used the shop's Warriors of Chaos army every time, purely to win. And then when I played LOTR against him with my Dwarves he used a bloody Mumak, four cataphracts and four Khandish horsemen. He should have a look at the 'bugger off' part too.

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No Kharadron Overlord Allegiances! What's going on here? :wideyed:

Although at least the old Dispossessed are getting some love again (which is a good job because I have heaps of them) as well as Fyreslayers and Seraphon.

I'm surprised there are no Stormcast Eternal allegiance abilities. Aren't you? :wideyed:
 
I am actually surprised they didn't put in awesome SCE stuff just because.
But yeah, they didn'T include new allegiance abilities for armies that just recently got a new Battletome with all that spell lore and stuff:
- Sylvaneth
- Khorne
- SCE
- Bonesplitterz
- Tzeentch
- Kharadron Overlords


The other factions not present are the really interesting ones:
- Deathrattle
- Nurgle
+ others

That could mean they will probably get new Battletomes soon.
EDIT: Or receive more radical changes like being rolled into other factions. Perhaps they kill Deathrattle completely and just make it generic Death, who knows? They said they will tell us more about Death today so I am very curious! :)
 
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I am actually surprised they didn't put in awesome SCE stuff just because.
But yeah, they didn'T include new allegiance abilities for armies that just recently got a new Battletome with all that spell lore and stuff:
- Sylvaneth
- Khorne
- SCE
- Bonesplitterz
- Tzeentch
- Kharadron Overlords


The other factions not present are the really interesting ones:
- Deathrattle
- Nurgle
+ others

That could mean they will probably get new Battletomes soon.
EDIT: Or receive more radical changes like being rolled into other factions. Perhaps they kill Deathrattle completely and just make it generic Death, who knows? They said they will tell us more about Death today so I am very curious! :)

Nurgle doesn't interest me - they've got too much of an update already in 40K. Where will they spill the beans about death today?
 
If Dan Heelan is to be believed that was not their motivation at all. The troubles with TK had them on the planned ban list for SCGT until the community team offered up a preview of the revised points as a way to keep them in the biggest AoS tournament.

Tnx, i missed this one.
 
Hopefully that the focus of such a battletome will be placed on the Vampire counts as their models are still in production. It makes fiscal sense for GW to shift the focus away from TK.

Heresy! Supporter of the Vampire scum!
I'm no supporter of the Vampires. I just want all the AoS players to focus on them and discard their TK so that I can pick them up cheaply.
 
I'm no supporter of the Vampires. I just want all the AoS players to focus on them and discard their TK so that I can pick them up cheaply.

But in the process advocating more people to join their evil forces. But then, it means more vermin for me to annihilate on the battlefield... ;)
 
New article about Death is up.
Sounds halfway promising.
 
Of note in the death report is mention of discounts to horde units when taken at full size. Saurus and skink hordes might be a viable strategy with the update.
 
Of note in the death report is mention of discounts to horde units when taken at full size. Saurus and skink hordes might be a viable strategy with the update.

My first thought was yesssss, i can add more to my 90 skinks I already run :spam:
 
I saw one page about warscroll updates. Maybe at the end of the book they will have added some updated warscrolls? I'm hoping for Skink chiefs who can buff units with +1 to hit as a ability!
 
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