7th Ed. Gw Speaks! Solves rules

[DonkeyHotep]

I actually e-mailed GW's ask section and got some answers to the questions I see here a lot. Here they be!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Steven de la Garza [mailto:redpepperbot@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:55 AM
To: Ask Your Question
Subject: Stegadon Bow


I have a tourney coming up, and I have questions regarding the lizardmen.

1. Can spell's like Vaul's unmaking and the Lore of Metal destroy a Horned one? It is a magic item but... seriously?
Yes, it can. Silly but true.

2. Can a skink chief riding a Stegadon use either the Giant Bow or the Giant Blowpipe?
He can crew the Giant Bow or fire one Giant Blowpipe.

3. If he can use them, can he use the Venom of the Firefly frog on such weapons?
No.

4. If a banner bearer uses the Skavenpelt Banner, does he instill frenzy on non-skink units in his regiment, such as Kroxigors or even Stegadons?
Yes.

5. Does the Cupped hands of the old one affect units that do not normally miscast, like lich priests?
Yes, it would. Unless they are ‘Immune to the effects of Miscasts’ or something like that.

6. If a razordon stands and shoots and rolls a number and misfire, does he still fire the number of shots, or does the misfire stop him from shooting?
The misfire would stop them from shooting.

 

[Craken]

Great, thanks for these clarifications, although the poofing Horned one is pretty stupid LOL

 

[kbind847]

So does this mean that I am able to use a skink chiefs BS for one of the giant blowpipes atop an ancient? Or even on the giant bow, even though it takes two to fire it...?

 

[msinosic]

I have emailed/called to clarify rules before and those clarifications have turned out to be contrary to the faqs/errata that have been produced at a later date. They are just local stores interpretations of the rules, I would be very surprised if they were in contact with the powers that be for making/clarifying rules.

 

[Putros]

Still, pretty good to have official/semi-official answers to these questions

 

[Caneghem]

Hmm, if number 6 is true I may not need to buy razordons after all. That is almost a 1/3 chance of misfiring per razordon on a stand and shoot.

Of course, that will help me save points for a stegadon ancient with a skink chief. Warspear all the way!

 

[Aren]

Is it just me, or do these GW-"clarifications" seem a bit random?

I mean, seriously, I don't think they had thought of all the potential situations, conflicting rules, and questions we are now asking. It seems as if they are just answering what's most logical or RAW according to them. Horned One destroyed by things that destroy magic items (forget not that there also are magic weapons etc. that can destroy magic items)? Ridicolous...

And take a Skink Chief riding a Steggie. It has now been clarified that it can shoot with howdah weapons, as any other weapons, but it can't use the Venom on such weapons. Where is the logic? I'm just asking...

 

[fer]

logic...

he can shoot them at BS5, but the guy loading it doesn't have the venom to apply to the weapon?

so maybe he ought to be able to load it with the venom but then you have to shoot it at BS3!

 

[Caneghem]

logic...

he can shoot them at BS5, but the guy loading it doesn't have the venom to apply to the weapon?

so maybe he ought to be able to load it with the venom but then you have to shoot it at BS3!

I'd say he probably only has a small vial of the stuff, so he can only use it on his own weapons.

 

[Aren]

I have emailed/called to clarify rules before and those clarifications have turned out to be contrary to the faqs/errata that have been produced at a later date. They are just local stores interpretations of the rules, I would be very surprised if they were in contact with the powers that be for making/clarifying rules.

Didn't see this post until now, but that is exactly what I am talking about. To get real answers, you need FAQs, and they don't come too often. Anyone knows when the first FAQ for the new Lizzies is coming?

 

[strewart]

1. Can spell's like Vaul's unmaking and the Lore of Metal destroy a Horned one? It is a magic item but... seriously?
Yes, it can. Silly but true.

Ignoring GW clarification, one thing that occured to me with regards to the horned one and Vaul's Unmaking is that Vaul's says it nullifies the magic item, and makes it act like the mundane version. Horned one specifically says that it is a supped up (ie magical) cold one, so Vaul's should just make the horned one become a normal cold one rather than just making it vanish altogether, yes?

Which also alerts me of an amusing possibility.. The horned one is a magic item, surely that means that attacks from the horned one count as magical thus can effect ethereal etc models? Maybe it is slightly worth taking afterall...

 

[Aparach]

OMG! GW seriously needs to clean things up conserning this and other rules like thouse concerning howda questions.

where is that errata

 

[Craken]

an erratta would be fantastic

 

[ACe]

I wonder why (if they had to make the horned one so that only one model in the army could take it) GW didn't state that the horned one is just an ordinary mount, but so rare that only one character in the army may mount one.

 

[strewart]

That would make sense... But seriously, if someone wanted 4 characters on horned ones at 2k, that is 4 out of the whole army, what is the problem?? Character only mounts are plenty rare enough.

Apparently some 40k erratas came out in the last few days, but I looked around and no new lizard one yet...

 

[Dalkarius]

We can only pray they come soon, I'm dying to get my hands on the FAQ. Hopefully they'll get the Stegadon and strange item issues.