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AoS Hoarfrost question

Discussion in 'Seraphon Tactics' started by milman, Mar 14, 2017.

  1. milman
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    milman Active Member

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    I was reading up on the order artifacts and was looking at the "hoarfrost". When it wounds and the model is not killed,it gives it a -1to hit for the rest of the battle.
    I was thinking, if you would give this to oxyotl for example in big battles and you hit for example a maw krusha a couple of times before it reaches your army you could make it so that he hits on a 5+.

    Could this work?
     
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    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    I don't think it stacks, is it not a once a battle ability?
     
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  3. milman
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    No,there is another artifact thats called "blinding light" or something and that is the -1 to hit on your hero holding it and that is the 1 per battle artifact.
    Hoarfrost adds to a weapons stats like "relic blade".
     
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    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    @Bowser needed!
     
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    I think that it is not once per game but doesnt stack : You could for example wound 5 different models and they would all get the -1 ?
     
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Thats how I understood it.
     
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    Is there something where i can find the answer to the fact that it stacks or not? Could be verry nice to make the hardhitters miss almost everything :p
    Becaus it doenst say you can't use it twice on the same target
     
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    This could be FAQed. It's an interesting question, let's see if more experienced players already know the answer !
     
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    Definitely doesn't stack.

    "If an enemy model suffers any wounds from this weapon and is not slain, subtract 1 from its hit rolls for the rest of the battle."

    The fact it says "any wounds" suggests to me that regardless if you inflict 1 or 100 wounds, you just subtract 1 from the hit rolls.
     
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    Could also mean per turn.
    It suffers wounds so -1
    Next turn it suffers wounds again sooo... again -1 ? :p
    No?
     
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    scubrat Well-Known Member

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    No, if that was the case it would read, "Each time an enemy model suffers wounds from this weapon and is not slain, subtract 1 from its hit rolls for the rest of the battle."
     
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    True
     
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    I figured it stacked, making it an excellent monster hunting weapon. Otherwise it seems pretty lacklustre.
     
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    @scubrat is correct, it unfortunately does not stack.
     
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    Still pretty good against enemies with lots of attacks, take the coven throne with its 25 attacks, all of those at -1 to hit is going to save you quite a bit of bother. Good for heroes like the oldblood who don't dish out a great deal of damage.
     
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    Ah well, suppose I'll have to keep that in mind.
     
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    True, but it's very specifical.
    And anyway, when you concentrate on a target, it's because you want to see it dead, if not in the same turn you attack it, at most in the following turn.
     
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    Also, it seems to work too well against models with abilities triggered by a 6 to hit, since it gives them an eternal -1, like the Stormcast "Burn to ashes" or the Mortarch's spirit claws, right?
     
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    It is insanely effective against those for that very reason!
     
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    The skink starpriest unique spell can give -1 to hit
     
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