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Tutorial Matched Play List GHB2019

Discussion in 'Seraphon Tactics' started by LizardWizard, Jun 23, 2019.

  1. Lizerd
    Skink Priest

    Lizerd Well-Known Member

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    Awesome! Just swap the razordons for salamanders and it would be excellent against ossiarchs
     
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  2. A_Reptile_Dysfunction
    Cold One

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    I’ve been running a list similar to this. I’m not running a Skink Priest and in exchange I am running 9 Terradons instead of 6 Rippers. It has been working fantastic. Last game I killed a Bloodthirster in the movement phase and 16 Reavers in the combat phase! :D

    How important has the second hero been for you?

    Seems like with Betrayers Crown and Cloak he will usually be on a suicide mission. Are you regularly getting more value out of him on average than you would get from having 9 Terradons over 6 Rippers?
     
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  3. LizardWizard
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    LizardWizard Grand Skink Handler Staff Member

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    I really depends on the enemy composition. If the enemy forces any large horde units then I find Betrayer's Crown to be extremely effective. If not, then being able to reroll saves on the Bastiladons from the prayer is also useful.

    Terradons are certainly more versatile than Ripperdactyls. Being able to deal mortal wounds in a meta soon to be saturated with Ossariachs is never a bad option.
     
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  4. A_Reptile_Dysfunction
    Cold One

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    How would this list fare against a Khorne list with 4 Bloodthirsters? Thunderquake would be my go to list against it but I’m not sure if I could deal enough damage to them before they could get into combat and outrageous carnage my castle. They’re hard to screen against due to them flying and the. There is the rest of the army to worry about.

    Maybe the trick will be to get enough damage on each to bracket them down a few so they’re not dealing so many mortals.
     
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  5. RandomScrub2
    Saurus

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    If you roll well with a bastiladon you should be able to 1shot a bloodthirster. Since you're rerolling hits and wounds at Rend -1 with Damage 3
     
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  6. A_Reptile_Dysfunction
    Cold One

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    In theory, last time I didn’t manage to kill it in one go with both Basties. Although you only get the rerolls to wound from the second turn onwards.

    EDIT: Not sure what the average is for a Bastiladon but I bet @Erta Wanderer has done the maths! ;)
     
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  7. LizardWizard
    OldBlood

    LizardWizard Grand Skink Handler Staff Member

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    You should fair pretty well if you can get a double turn of shooting. The splahsing MW from the Bloodthrist could be an issue since the list needs to turtle.
     
  8. A_Reptile_Dysfunction
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    This is my main concern as my Opponent will be running 4 BT of Insensate Rage. Best case 1 or 2 will still get into combat and due to them flying they can mitigate the effectiveness of my screens.

    I think the best I can do is place my Castle at the maximum ranges to still stay within the buffs and plug the gaps with skinks to prevent the base size fitting in centrally to prevent maximum damage with outrageous carnage.
     
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  9. LizardWizard
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    LizardWizard Grand Skink Handler Staff Member

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    You would need to use your screens to zone the base. With four units of 10 Skinks you should be able to deny a lot of area.
     
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  10. Lizerd
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    I would argue to use knights instead, simply because they have a better save and some more staying power
     
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    Skinks can Wary Fighter to deny the Blood Thirster's attacks and prevent the MW from triggering :D

    Saurus Knights are decent options after their point decreases with the last GHB though.
     
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  12. Lizerd
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    @LizardWizard would carnosaurs work with lord kroak? I’m considering buying the mummified Slann and I’m curious about what he can do
     
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  13. Lizerd
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    Would this work?
    Allegiance: Seraphon
    Mortal Realm: Ulgu

    Leaders
    Lord Kroak (430)
    - General
    - Spell: Stellar Tempest
    Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (240)
    - Artefact: Doppelganger Cloak
    Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (240)
    - War Spear
    - Artefact: Sword of Judgement
    Saurus Scar-Veteran on Cold One (100)
    Skink Starpriest (80)
    - Spell: Mystical Unforging
    Saurus Astrolith Bearer (160)

    Battleline
    5 x Saurus Knights (80)
    - Lances
    5 x Saurus Knights (80)
    - Lances
    5 x Saurus Knights (80)
    - Lances

    Units
    3 x Razordons (120)
    3 x Razordons (120)
    1 x Razordons (50)

    Battalions
    Firelance Starhost (150)

    Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
    Balewind Vortex (40)

    Total: 1970 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 1
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 102
     
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  14. LizardWizard
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    I like it!

    Would be great to find 50 point for Cogs, but even without it you should still be viable.
     
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  15. Lizerd
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    Maybe drop a razordon and put in cogs?

    then kroak could cast 6 spells a turn!
     
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    You would have to drop more than one, Cogs is 80, and the 3rd Razordon will only save 20 points :(
     
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    he has 1 in a squad of its own he just needs to drop that one
     
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    Oh, I missed the lonely boy, deff drop him for cogs :D
     
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  19. Lizerd
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    Poor lizard, abandoned in favor of some whisky whirly shiny things
     
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  20. Lizerd
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    Double post here, but it is an interesting idea, maybe a list with a dread saurian as a distraction carnifex and then a bunch of razordons and skinks? The opponent might be distracted by the dread saurian, which would make them open to razordons and skinks seizing objectives
     
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