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AoS Need some help come up with a good tournament 1500 list that has special restrictions

Discussion in 'Seraphon Army Lists' started by MackiMac, Oct 17, 2020.

  1. MackiMac
    Kroxigor

    MackiMac Well-Known Member

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    Hi, I need some inspiration for a 1500pt list for a tournament I'm going to attend. The tournament has some restictions for how you can build your list. I like to hear your ideas, I grateful for any advice. :)


    These are the restrictions for list buildng:
    1. Each warscroll can only be taken once (you can take two of the same battleline units if you only take those two and no other battleline units)
    2. A unit can never larger than their start number of model (battleline units can be double their start number)
    3. A unit can never cost more points than 30% of the total point value


    This is a list I came up with. I tried it out earlier today against a Stonehorn spam and lost terribly. The biggest problem with this list is the lack of screening units and the low model count.

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    - Constellation: Thunder Lizard

    Leaders
    Stegadon with Skink Chief (250)
    - General
    - Command Trait: Prime Warbeast
    - Artefact: Cloak of Feathers
    - Weapon: Sunfire Throwers (I would use the bow if I could, but its modelled with fire throwers)
    Skink Priest (70)
    - Artefact: Fusil of Conflaguration
    Skink Starseer (140)
    - Spell: Hand of Glory

    Battleline
    Stegadon (240)
    - Weapon: Skystreak Bow
    Stegadon (240)
    - Weapon: Skystreak Bow

    Units
    3 x Kroxigor (140)

    Behemoths
    Bastiladon (220)
    - Weapon: Solar Engine

    Battalions
    Thunderquake Temple-host (150)

    Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
    Extra Command Point (50)

    Total: 1500 / 1500
    Extra Command Points: 2
    Allies: 0 / 200
    Wounds: 61
     
  2. Tav
    Cold One

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    wouldn't a stone horn spam not meet the requirements? 1 of each war scroll?

    The issue is that you've got no bodies You could just remove the bastiladon and extra CP and spend those points on a unit of knights and a unit of skinks.
    You can make a lot of lists with just 1 of each warscroll, especially if skink heavy, by having 1 unit of skinks, 1 of salamanders, 1 of terradons etc.
    Or you could give a saurus list a go. Slann/Kroak 10 guards, 10 knights 10 skinks. Then throw in some other heroes like starpriest and add a stegadon or salamander or something. there are so many options.

    I would consider:

    Kroak
    Astrolith Bearer
    Starpriest

    10 Guard
    10 Knights
    10 skinks
    20 warriors

    Stegadon
     
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  3. MackiMac
    Kroxigor

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    You can have up to 4 stonehorns with these restrictions:
    1 Frostlord, 1 huskard, 2 beastriders :eek:

    What do you think of this list?


    Allegiance: Seraphon
    - Coalesced

    Leaders
    Lord Kroak (320)
    - Spell: Stellar Tempest
    Saurus Astrolith Bearer (140)
    Skink Oracle on Troglodon (220)
    - General
    - Command Trait: Nimble
    - Artefact: Cloak of Feathers
    - Spell: Fiery Convocation
    Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (230)

    Battleline
    10 x Saurus Guard (200)
    10 x Saurus Knights (200)
    - Lances

    Units
    1 x Razordon Hunting Pack (80)

    Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
    Bound Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (70)
    Balewind Vortex (40)

    Total: 1500 / 1500
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Allies: 0 / 200
    Wounds: 81
     
  4. Tav
    Cold One

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    very low on bodies. Stonehorns get away with it by counting as 10 models but youll need more to spread out and grab objectives, at the very least just 2 10s of skinks.
    I would lose the carnosaur, add 2 10s of skinks and maybe a salamander or a unit of knights/warriors.
    The razordon isnt helping you either. Could go without the razordon and carnosaur.

    kroak
    Astrolith
    Oracle

    10 guard
    10 knights
    10 skinks
    10 skinks
    10 warriors
    10 warriors

    this gives you plenty of bodies to cover the board.
    The goal would be to spread out, screen with skinks and capture objective while kroak does most of the heavy lifting through mortal wound spells
     
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    I like the list, but it is sadly not legal in this format. I can only have two of the same battleline units if they are the only battleline units in the list.
     
  6. Tav
    Cold One

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    Ah okay
    In that case A unit of 20 warriors Would be a good number of bodies. A starpriest would be excellent to go with the knights for buffs.

    kroak
    Astrolith
    Oracle
    Starpriest

    10 guard
    10 knights
    20 warriors

    Balewind
    Bound gemenids
     
  7. MackiMac
    Kroxigor

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    The TO changed some restrictions after he playtested the format.


    Now you can chose one of these three when building the list:

    1. Double one units starting models (battleline cannot do this like before, without picking this one)

    2. Allowed two of the same unit

    3. Pick one unit that cost more than 30%. But lose total points equal to what exceeds 30%. 30% of 1500 = 450. So if you pick a unit that cost 460pts, you will only be allowed to make a 1490pts list
     
  8. MackiMac
    Kroxigor

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    Could this work?

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    - Constellation: Coalesced

    Leaders
    Lord Kroak (320)
    - Spell: Celestial Equilibrium
    Saurus Astrolith Bearer (140)
    Skink Oracle on Troglodon (220)
    - General
    - Command Trait: Nimble
    - Artefact: Cloak of Feathers
    Knight-Incantor (120)
    - Allies

    Battleline
    10 x Saurus Guard (200)
    10 x Skinks (60)
    - Meteoric Javelins Celestite Daggers & Star Bucklers
    10 x Saurus Warriors (90)
    - Clubs
    5 x Saurus Knights (100)
    - Lances

    Units
    5 x Tree-Revenants (80)
    - Allies

    Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
    Bound Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (70)
    Everblaze Comet (100)

    Total: 1500 / 1500
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Allies: 200 / 200
    Wounds: 83
     
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    Yeah that looks decent. You would get better use out of 5 extra knights than 5 extra guard though since the guard will mainly just be there to add wounds to kroak
     
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    Good thinking, thats probably better :)
     

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