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[Zwuppie]

How does it look like when you paint a whole unit?

The chief is awesome! looking forward to see the result!

 

[neveroddoreven]

Thanks for the insight, Neveroddoreven!

Any chance for a brief step-by-step on your application/use of the medium? :O I've never dabbled in it before, but it sounds promising, judging by your results!

I was painting in my local GW not too long back. Sitting next to me was a kid painting his first model, a teeny tiny Bilbo, doing an amazing job and putting my first ever model to shame. I was older than him when I first started and I sucked at it.
Anyway, the topic on the table turned to the use of medium. I really wanted to inspire this little guy and advise him on it's wonders. But I couldn't describe it. The conversation has come up again and again, and I fail every time to explain just what the use of this mysterious invisible paint is.
I'll give it a go;

Medium is used as a tool to control the transparency of your paints.
Think of the quality of your paints in terms of opacity and transparency. The old foundation paints (and to a lesser state, the newer 'Base' paints that are their replacement) are an example of very opaque paints, they have a high pigment content. The washes ('Shades' whatever) are transparent, with a low pigment count.
Using a lot of it, you can create your own washes or glazes. Using a little of it when layering helps to blend the layers because you can still see the layer underneath. It saves you mixing up lots of layers.
I mix it into every single paint when I'm working on important things like character models.

As a disclaimer though I can't claim that this is the correct way of using it, or if there actually is a correct way. I've never looked up a tutorial or anything. Just experiment with it, I had a pot of it for a year before I figured out a way for it to work for me.
Hope this helps.

 

[Cragglehatch]

Haha wow, thank you for the detailed response! :3

I believe I see where you're coming from; it sounds awesome! I do want to give it a try eventually...

 

[hilburn]

Thanks for the insight, Neveroddoreven!

Any chance for a brief step-by-step on your application/use of the medium? :O I've never dabbled in it before, but it sounds promising, judging by your results!

I love matte medium, it's great for a lot of uses. I agree with neveroddoreven that you should buy some and experiment with it (not expensive, like 5 pounds for 250ml) but I will point you at this site which covers the main paint additives very well http://handcannononline.com/blog/20...is-plus-that-equals-additives-and-their-uses/

Enjoy!

 

[Cragglehatch]

Thanks for the insight, Neveroddoreven!

Any chance for a brief step-by-step on your application/use of the medium? :O I've never dabbled in it before, but it sounds promising, judging by your results!

I love matte medium, it's great for a lot of uses. I agree with neveroddoreven that you should buy some and experiment with it (not expensive, like 5 pounds for 250ml) but I will point you at this site which covers the main paint additives very well http://handcannononline.com/blog/20...is-plus-that-equals-additives-and-their-uses/

Enjoy!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaah, there's too much to know about this hobbyyyyyy *head explodes*

*Regrows head*

That's actually a really helpful link! Thanks . So informative...but man, so intimidating at the same time! XD

 

[neveroddoreven]

Oh dear, a new page and no pictures.

Some infantry;


The Piranha Legion. The idea for my southlands forces is to make them a bit more primitive and tribal, hence the spears. Most of the decorations are painted as wood or stone, and all metal as bronze instead of gold. The spikes on the shields and standards are painted as teeth, lending the unit it's namesake.

Yeah, I know. Spears and only two ranks. I'm working on it.

I only have a half unit so far of my Skinks. Their green is a little richer than the Saurus. I tried to come up with a colour scheme that would be easy to paint, unlike my Lustrians.


I'm also working on a second Skink unit in desert colours.

 

[Cragglehatch]

Beautiful!

You should do some close-up shots of the Saurus and the Skinks because I can see details that I wish I could get a better look at!

Also, I hate to be 'that guy', but I think that you missed one of the metal arm rings on the middle Skink of the last photo .

Your work is always an inspiration :3. I hope to get started on my own Lizardmen eventually D:

 

[neveroddoreven]

You should do some close-up shots of the Saurus and the Skinks because I can see details that I wish I could get a better look at!

Also, I hate to be 'that guy', but I think that you missed one of the metal arm rings on the middle Skink of the last photo .

Yeah, this happens more often than I'd like to admit. I'm refurbishing my old Saurus cavalry right now, and I noticed some feathers that I'd missed. There's also my Skaven warlord where I'd missed a whole section of cloth..
By all means be 'that guy', it would be rude to let it slip. Good job the unit is only half done, I can just finish it off as I'm painting the others.

For some reason I just can't get good detail pics of infantry. Maybe I just don't care, I don't know. I'll try to treat one like a character model and see if that works!

 

[Rikard]

This is nothing sort of stunning, if I ever get more free time I'd love to do a colab with you.

 

[Dancing with Saurus2]

Wow! Loving these! The bases are fantastic as well.

 

[neveroddoreven]

This is nothing sort of stunning, if I ever get more free time I'd love to do a colab with you.

Interesting. Did you have something in mind?

Wow! Loving these! The bases are fantastic as well.

The bases on those Saurus? I got the idea from my brother's Beastmen. The swampy water is part of the base left smooth, painted dark then glossed. Then I used chopped herbs as dead leaves.

That Troglodon I promised to post pictures of has been done since November! My laptop died at about the same time and has only just been repaired. I'll get it done soon, I have plenty of time at the moment being off work with the flu.

 

[Rikard]

I'll have to get around to it first, which could take a while, more of something to bear in mind at present though in case I churn out any sculpts you like the look of.

 

[The Lord of Excess]

I know this is an older thread now and I"m very late to it. I have a question though on some of the original posts/pics. That terrain is wonderful!!

Do you have a blog or other posts detailing it?

I'd love to see more on how others have done up some terrain sets that rival what you see in GWs own publications.

Great thread!

Thanks!!

 

[Gorgosaurus]

-Mouths gasps open- Wow....

 

[VampTeddy]

Wonderful work, also in the old thread.

You've inspired me to redo the army theme i came up with when i was 13, copied GW's blue/bright blue set, and made a red line on the back. When i started again a year back i managed to make it look better on newer models but never quite became happy with them.

Now i decided to do a sand colored scheme with a colorful back, either different from unit to unit, or the same blended (through drybrushing) Red, to Orange, to yellow to blue, to white color on their backs, or on their arms and legs.

Still undecided and i am gonna start testing soon.

Just wanted to say this is a great inspiration on how color can really look awesome

 

[neveroddoreven]

Long time coming;


I really wanted to give him the divining rod, but didn't want him unarmed, so I used the Carnosaur's reins as a sling for spare javelins.

As mentioned earlier in the thread the colour and pattern is a tribute to the Dilophosaurus from Jurassic Park.


Atlhuitl, my Skink Oracle, with a colour scheme inspired by the cover to the Cat Power album 'Sun', complete with rainbow tail.

I'm using his back banner as a standard for a new unit of Skinks, so was left with a weird object on his back that I turned into a sheathe for a golden dagger.

I just now noticed I need to paint the contact point area under his foot there. Whoops again.

Also to show are my refurbished cavalry. I replaced the riders with the previous edition metal ones.

I like the prone saddle position, it makes them look faster.

 

[n810]

Wow...

Well done sir.

Just brilliant smooth blends on the trog, and good use of your color palette.

I think that is my favorite combo for coldone conversions.

 

[VampTeddy]

I'm as big a fan of the New DE cold ones + new saurus riders, and just the standard sauru cav, if not so say i like our own kit more!

But when you combine the old metals and the new DE cold ones, you get something i think looks really, really cool!

I haven't seen it done badly, and you defo do it well.

I like the "tiger" stripes on your beasts, looks awesome!

 

[Hojdar]

Your painting is truly amazing and an inspiration to get better myself. Suberb details and your colours blend so smoothly into each other. That rainbow tail is by far my favorite detail, really well done!

 

[Kroq]

Being a great fan of JP,i can just say:
That troglodon is awesome|