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AoS NEW *rumor*

Canas said:
yeah, you're going to have to scroll through wiki's, books, white dwarfs etc. to get the full lore, and more than a very very basic understanding of what's going on. What @Erta Wanderer wanderer linked is usefull for the basic tactics of a given army. But for the lore there's virtually no coherent summary anywhere.

Best I can do is this as a short summary of the important events affecting every single race:
- Old world blew up
- Sigmar floated through space, Seraphon hung out in space ships, Chaos chaos-ed somewhere, mortal races didn't really exist
- Sigmar bumps into a giant space dragon, they become friends.
- Sigmar creates the mortal realms, punches things, allies with varies gods, various mortal races settle under their guidance.
- Slaanesh is captured by the aelven gods, they use her/him/it to create aelves.
- Chaos shows up and screws stuff up.
- Sigmar and his god-friends are petty and stop being friends
- Sigmar throws his hammer through a portal after being tricked, Forces of "good" are defeated.
- Sigmar retreats into Azyr, sulks & builds the SCE.
- Chaos does its thing to the realms
- Sigmar shows up with the SCE
- SCE reclaim sigmar's hammer
- Nagash decides he's insulted cuz he deserves all the souls
- Various armies march on Nagash's capital cuz reasons (destruction's just looking for a fight, the others are trying to stop nagash)
- Skaven stop Nagash's ultimate plan on accident cuz they're skaven and he's nagash and that's kinda what they do
- Necroquake empowers magic, releases the nighthaunt & endless spells, mortal races attempt to deal with that.
- Nagash sends out more Legions
- Sigmar sends out more SCE.
- Aelven gods are insulted cuz Sigmar used a thing they made "wrong"
- Various dangerous artifacts, daemons etc. are released as a consequence of the necroquake & the following fighting over special vaults where said artifacts where stored.
- Nagash decides to make bonepeople
- Bonepeople attack Archeaon
- Bonepeople are defeated, sorta? This is somehow still a victory according to king bone-person

The other races I haven't mentioned eplicitly mostly just play along at the sidelines. Occasionally an important city is overrun and it turns out to contain one of those vaults or something. But by and large it doesn't really matter if that happened to be a human city that was besieged by orruks, or a chaos stronghold besieged by undead. On the whole:
- Cities of sigmar try to stay alive in this mess
- KO, try to make money no matter the horrors they might awaken
- Fyrelayers, try to make ur-gold & betray everyone for it if there's the slightest promise of more ur-gold (i'm still annoyed at that short story...)
- Sylvaneth, try to make more trees and turn everything that isn't a tree into fertilizer
- Idoneth, try to stay alive and steal souls
- DoK, try to ressurect khaine/empower morathi

- Orruks: go around punching things
- Goblins: go around punching things
- Ogers: go around eating things

Various chaos forces just try to corrupt everything for their respective god and/or ascend to godhood themselves.

Undead: try to claim all the souls for Nagash, with the exception of the Flesh eater courts who do random stuff depending on what their madness tells them to do now. Resulting in some interesting alliances, with flesh eaters heroicly coming to the rescue of poor peasants. Flesh eater courts are nearly

As for the role of the seraphon in all this, we occasionally show up in a random place and randomly join the fighting or protect some artifact or do some other nonsense the Slann deemed to be usefull.

So that, hopefully it's somewhat usefull.

On another note: new aelven teaser
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i can't click the like button as much as i would love to and your summary derserves it. i had to laugh so hard just because of your way of describing.
thank's
 
Cuetzpal Pilli said:
This. The "tease-it-cause-they-leaked-it" theory is starting to feel like reality at this point. But if I remember correctly, didn't they say something when this happened with the Sylvaneth tome? Like they clarified there was a delay or whatnot? I hate that GW does this just to try and get ahead/own the news. Just let the leak stand and let people theorycraft/gossip about it, letting hype slowly climb over time and tease it only when your closer to the actual release. Else you just pique interests too early only to have a disheartened/less interested fanbase once you actually release the damn thing. (I say this because I believe this is what normally happens, but we are cold-blooded and patient lizards accustomed to the ever-slow grind that is the Great Plan, so we're a bit more resilient/accustomed to this ;)).
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The delay for the sylvaneth ended up being months, and they had released more teaser than just the one "look we're making a new tome" announcement. There had actually already been some teaser showing new rules before they told us about the delays. We're not yet at that point.

Jason839 said:
Its best to make up your own canon to justify it all. Thats the only way it will make sense. I like to think the Old ones and the Chaos gods are multi-dimensional beings and they are fighting a cosmic battle and all the fantasy gods and the 40k emperors and primarchs are just pawns in this massive never ending war.

The problem is they keep retconning the fluff every time a new writer gets a hold of it. Its almost as bad as comic books. Like I remember reading a story somewhere in the wood elves fluff about how when Alarielle was a child, her mother the then everqueen made a deal with Durthu to take her children through the tree network to saftey. It was kinda forbidden and Durthu told her there would be a price all wood elves would have to pay one day and she accepted. So Alarielle was saved. End times happened, Souls of the wood elves turned into the sylvaneth to eternally guard the woods as payment for their debt. Fast forward to now. Its all forgotten like it never happend, never mentioned again.
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Warhammer is far better than comics in terms of continuity because of 1 simple reason. Comics constantly ret-con & start over the entire story in a "fresh" universe/timeline whenever a writer starts a "new" series. However, every single warhammer (40K) story is canonically an in-universe story told by some random person/ork/whatever, or for example a data-entry in some archive somewhere. There's no reason to assume anything in it is true, it is all filled with propaganda, half-truths & half forgotten facts made by untrustworthy sources. And in doing so GW has effectivly made every inconsistency consistent with the in-universe reality that the sources of these stories are unreliable at best and outright lying at worst.

It's one of the greatest ideas anyone has ever had when it comes to world-building a massive universe like this that has to be brought to live by multiple different writers.
 
Cuetzpal Pilli said:
PS: Curious, does anyone else find the new LumenLord cavalry a bit, underwhelming/generic? I like the Warden models a fair bit, but the cavalry just doesn't cut it for me (I know one reason is the wonky straightened leg on some of the 'full gallop' horses).
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Well yes, but I can't say I find any of the new elves particularly interesting.
 
Lizerd said:
If you think AoS is bad, just wait until you learn about 40k!
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I'm a masochist, not insane! One mental beating at a time, thank you very much!!!

Lustrian Giant said:
This is not allowed to be this accurate, especially destruction
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I just noticed I mistyped and used "meats" instead of "meets" and I can't say that the correction would make that statement better....

Carnikang said:
If you want more 'in lore' look at things 2+ Tough on YouTube explores the lore and the going ons fairly well.
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Just found him last night. Started with the basics of Seraphon and got thru the Slann.
 
other than seraphon and lumineth and the stuff that were previewed at toy fair what else is due for release
 
Vinosh said:
other than seraphon and lumineth and the stuff that were previewed at toy fair what else is due for release
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As far as AoS goes, just the stuff you mentioned (...I think lol).

There's a good bit of 40k stuff left though, IIRC; 1/2 half of sisters of battle, Gazhgull/Orks, and I believe at least 2 more psychic awakening books+any models related to that (aka more space marines (-_-)) And that's not mentioning any of the specialist games stuff that's been previewed/teased, but I don't keep track of those well enough to list them all.
 
Cuetzpal Pilli said:
As far as AoS goes, just the stuff you mentioned (...I think lol).

There's a good bit of 40k stuff left though, IIRC; 1/2 half of sisters of battle, Gazhgull/Orks, and I believe at least 2 more psychic awakening books+any models related to that (aka more space marines (-_-)) And that's not mentioning any of the specialist games stuff that's been previewed/teased, but I don't keep track of those well enough to list them all.
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The new adeptus mechanicus stuff as well.
 
Canas said:
The new adeptus mechanicus stuff as well.
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Of course!! How could I forget all the steampunk-like apparatuses which will make great kitbash material for either a grotbag scuttlers conversion army, or a very inventive Greywater Fastness army. Personally, I feel the designs are a bit too steampunk to be in 40k, but I forget that's Admech's whole shtick lol.

If I were into building a Greywater Fastness army, I'd definitely use the mechanical horses as proxies for SCE dracoth units or pistoliers/outriders/fire-arm cavalry, all depending on the bases sizes of the horsies that is. Maybe even demi-gryph knights, but they don't have a breath/ranged firearm weapon so it doesn't feel as appropriate or "accurate" a conversion lol.
 
If we are delayed, why did they showed ours hammerhal herald teaser? And yes, sylvaneth, I think, even got rules preview before being delayed. The whole book and warscrolls leaked like a month before the release.
 
Nart said:
If we are delayed, why did they showed ours hammerhal herald teaser? And yes, sylvaneth, I think, even got rules preview before being delayed. The whole book and warscrolls leaked like a month before the release.
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IIRC the hammerhal herald for the Beastmen also came quite some time before their release and there were almost no news at all after it for weeks.
 
plant life from who knows where.at least it doesn't look aelvish
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