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AoS NEW *rumor*

Canas said:
yeah, you're going to have to scroll through wiki's, books, white dwarfs etc. to get the full lore, and more than a very very basic understanding of what's going on. What @Erta Wanderer wanderer linked is usefull for the basic tactics of a given army. But for the lore there's virtually no coherent summary anywhere.

Best I can do is this as a short summary of the important events affecting every single race:
- Old world blew up
- Sigmar floated through space, Seraphon hung out in space ships, Chaos chaos-ed somewhere, mortal races didn't really exist
- Sigmar bumps into a giant space dragon, they become friends.
- Sigmar creates the mortal realms, punches things, allies with varies gods, various mortal races settle under their guidance.
- Slaanesh is captured by the aelven gods, they use her/him/it to create aelves.
- Chaos shows up and screws stuff up.
- Sigmar and his god-friends are petty and stop being friends
- Sigmar throws his hammer through a portal after being tricked, Forces of "good" are defeated.
- Sigmar retreats into Azyr, sulks & builds the SCE.
- Chaos does its thing to the realms
- Sigmar shows up with the SCE
- SCE reclaim sigmar's hammer
- Nagash decides he's insulted cuz he deserves all the souls
- Various armies march on Nagash's capital cuz reasons (destruction's just looking for a fight, the others are trying to stop nagash)
- Skaven stop Nagash's ultimate plan on accident cuz they're skaven and he's nagash and that's kinda what they do
- Necroquake empowers magic, releases the nighthaunt & endless spells, mortal races attempt to deal with that.
- Nagash sends out more Legions
- Sigmar sends out more SCE.
- Aelven gods are insulted cuz Sigmar used a thing they made "wrong"
- Various dangerous artifacts, daemons etc. are released as a consequence of the necroquake & the following fighting over special vaults where said artifacts where stored.
- Nagash decides to make bonepeople
- Bonepeople attack Archeaon
- Bonepeople are defeated, sorta? This is somehow still a victory according to king bone-person

The other races I haven't mentioned eplicitly mostly just play along at the sidelines. Occasionally an important city is overrun and it turns out to contain one of those vaults or something. But by and large it doesn't really matter if that happened to be a human city that was besieged by orruks, or a chaos stronghold besieged by undead. On the whole:
- Cities of sigmar try to stay alive in this mess
- KO, try to make money no matter the horrors they might awaken
- Fyrelayers, try to make ur-gold & betray everyone for it if there's the slightest promise of more ur-gold (i'm still annoyed at that short story...)
- Sylvaneth, try to make more trees and turn everything that isn't a tree into fertilizer
- Idoneth, try to stay alive and steal souls
- DoK, try to ressurect khaine/empower morathi

- Orruks: go around punching things
- Goblins: go around punching things
- Ogers: go around eating things

Various chaos forces just try to corrupt everything for their respective god and/or ascend to godhood themselves.

Undead: try to claim all the souls for Nagash, with the exception of the Flesh eater courts who do random stuff depending on what their madness tells them to do now. Resulting in some interesting alliances, with flesh eaters heroicly coming to the rescue of poor peasants. Flesh eater courts are nearly

As for the role of the seraphon in all this, we occasionally show up in a random place and randomly join the fighting or protect some artifact or do some other nonsense the Slann deemed to be usefull.

So that, hopefully it's somewhat usefull.

On another note: new aelven teaser
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one point of contention, the Fyreslayers NEVER betray anyone. they make deals and honor them, and don't rightly care who the deals are with 'MOST" of the time.

they have a distinct code and can always be trusted to follow it, even if it means dying on a hill for a cause they didn't care about.

DoK will betray the shit out of you, and the idoneth… well im pretty sure at this point the grand alliances are based on race and not actual proclivity towards order lol.
 
Guys just saw in the game page that they have removed 80% of our miniatures, something happens. !!!!
 
Soinspir said:
Guys just saw in the game page that they have removed 80% of our miniatures, something happens. !!!!
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Game page? do you mean on the GW website? because here in the US all the models are available besides 4... starseer, bastilodon rippers and terras.. and those are listed as "temporarily unavailable"
 
Same on the Irish store. A lot of models temp unavailable (Slann, krox, bastilidon, stegadon, warriors, salamander, razordon, etc..). They were all there at the weekend, because i was browsing for stuff.

Heres a (zoomed out) pic, you can tell from the images what is what.

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Erta Wanderer said:
nothing new this has happened many times in the last year. my guess is they are having supply problems
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But if its supply issues then other factions should be affected too and the only other faction with multiple kits out of stock as far as I can see is STD so it has to mean something that so many of our kits are out of stock right? (Or they just thought Seraphon won't be bought until their new Tome is out so they didn't ship anything the last few times)
 
Matrindur said:
But if its supply issues then other factions should be affected too and the only other faction with multiple kits out of stock as far as I can see is STD so it has to mean something that so many of our kits are out of stock right? (Or they just thought Seraphon won't be bought until their new Tome is out so they didn't ship anything the last few times)
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or they tend to wait untill the stock runs dry to print more so they only have as much as is needed and the only times people notes is when it's their faction. fyre slayers have a long history of this same with cities if it's online store only then they don't need to have a lot on hand
 
Erta Wanderer said:
plant life from who knows where.at least it doesn't look aelvish
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Razordon tail.. feel free to get your hopes up now
 
Erta Wanderer said:
it looks more deserty then jungle
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It looks like a fern, that's fairly jungle-y.

ILKAIN said:
one point of contention, the Fyreslayers NEVER betray anyone. they make deals and honor them, and don't rightly care who the deals are with 'MOST" of the time.

they have a distinct code and can always be trusted to follow it, even if it means dying on a hill for a cause they didn't care about.

DoK will betray the shit out of you, and the idoneth… well im pretty sure at this point the grand alliances are based on race and not actual proclivity towards order lol.
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In the short story where Nagash sieges some human city all it took for the Fyreslayers to switch sides was for a servant of Nagash to say "we'l pay you double" and "those humans are totally untrustworthy, they are behind on your payments", ignoring the fact that what was causing the delay was undeath attacking the various caravans that were supposed to bring the payment to the fyreslayers.

Even for mercenaries that's a disturbing lack of commitment to an earlier made deal & lack of honour, and as far as I'd be concerned definitly a betrayal given that it was in the middle of a damn battle... It's not like they fought one battle as allies, then the next as enemies, they literally just turned on their employers mid-battle. That is by any definition a betrayal...

Matrindur said:
I just realised how much of our army is webstore exlusive, we only have 4 boxes available in stores which would explain why I never see us
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Most armies don't have more than 3-4 store boxes aside from SCE & Nagash & friends, and I'm fairly certain there's some that have none.

Erta Wanderer said:
or they tend to wait untill the stock runs dry to print more so they only have as much as is needed and the only times people notes is when it's their faction. fyre slayers have a long history of this same with cities if it's online store only then they don't need to have a lot on hand
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yeah, GW have a very defensive appraoch when it comes to stocking. Stuff being unavailable happens all the time, and it's not uncommon for a lot to be unavailable at once either.
 
That is a lot of Finecast out of stock in places. Ah well.

The fern is interesting. It could be a new piece of terrain, basing kit, decoration on a hero base, or something entirely different. Part of me saw it and thought spikes on a monster at first.
 
ILKAIN said:
one point of contention, the Fyreslayers NEVER betray anyone. they make deals and honor them, and don't rightly care who the deals are with 'MOST" of the time.

they have a distinct code and can always be trusted to follow it, even if it means dying on a hill for a cause they didn't care about.
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Exactly so - even though outsiders see them as simple mercenaries, Fyreslayers still serve by their codes of honour like the old Dwarfs do.

Also Fyreslayers are the ones trying to rebuild their god, that's why they collect all the Ur-Gold, while Daughters of Khaine just worship Khaine and empower Morathi without realising it.

Canas said:
In the short story where Nagash sieges some human city all it took for the Fyreslayers to switch sides was for a servant of Nagash to say "we'l pay you double" and "those humans are totally untrustworthy, they are behind on your payments", ignoring the fact that what was causing the delay was undeath attacking the various caravans that were supposed to bring the payment to the fyreslayers.

Even for mercenaries that's a disturbing lack of commitment to an earlier made deal & lack of honour, and as far as I'd be concerned definitly a betrayal given that it was in the middle of a damn battle... It's not like they fought one battle as allies, then the next as enemies, they literally just turned on their employers mid-battle. That is by any definition a betrayal...
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It could always be the case that that story was just written by someone who didn't know Fyreslayer lore all that well and/or doesn't like them - Warhammer fiction, like any other fandom's fiction, has its good points and bad points.
ILKAIN said:
DoK will betray the shit out of you, and the idoneth… well im pretty sure at this point the grand alliances are based on race and not actual proclivity towards order lol.
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This is the thing that bugs me - Daughters of Khaine are the one army that really doesn't fit at all well in Order, for they love to abduct and murder innocents and have orgies in their blood as part of their devotion to their old god, and yet Sigmar and the other gods of Order seem to tolerate this for reasons that are beyond me. Daughters of Khaine would have fitted much better in Chaos as they do pretty much cause chaos, and given that they love shedding blood and hate Slaanesh's guts, they would probably get on very well with the Blades of Khorne.

Idoneth aren't so bad because they have to steal souls to survive and they see it as a humiliation and shame (as opposed to Dark Eldar who love doing it), but I see where you're coming from there too.[/QUOTE]
 
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