8th Ed. Problem with rules

[Labarna]

Hello, I am still beginner and need help with some problems. Now there are more theoretical, but later maybe I will need them.

1, How many times I can use salamanders flame attack? Only one per battle, or one per round? I think its flame attack, but is ruled as breath attack, then one per round, correct?

2, Champions of units with room for magic items, can wear things from all categories (except arcane ones, because they are not wizards).

3, After successful casting of spell, which saves I can use? Armour, ward? Because I found only rule Magic Resistance and there is written, value of MR is added to WS, when it is used as save throw against spell of enemy.

Thank a lot, I hope those questions arent so stupid

 

[n810]

Hello, I am still beginner and need help with some problems. Now there are more theoretical, but later maybe I will need them.

1, How many times I can use salamanders flame attack? Only one per battle, or one per round? I think its flame attack, but is ruled as breath attack, then one per round, correct?
NOT A BREATH ATTACK

2, Champions of units with room for magic items, can wear things from all categories (except arcane ones, because they are not wizards).
FOR OUR ARMY ONLY TEMPLE GUARD CHAMPIONS, AND ONLY ONE CHEEP ITEM

3, After successful casting of spell, which saves I can use? Armour, ward? Because I found only rule Magic Resistance and there is written, value of MR is added to WS, when it is used as save throw against spell of enemy.
ONLY AGAINST SPELLS THAT HAVE A "ST" VALUE THIS WOULD USUALY BE MAGIC MISSLE TYPE SPELLS, AND YOU GET A ARMOR AND WARD SAVE OR REGEN SAVE UNLESS THE SPELL SAYS YOU DO NOT.

Thank a lot, I hope those questions arent so stupid

PS. I'M NOT YELLING i JUST WANTED THE TEXT TO BE DIFFERENT.

 

[SanDiegoSurrealist]

1. How many times I can use salamanders flame attack?
Each Salamander can shoot flames one time each shooting phase.

2. Champions of units with room for magic items, can wear things from all categories (except arcane ones, because they are not wizards).
Correct.

3. After successful casting of spell, which saves I can use?
Spells will say what saves are ignored, if any. Otherwise, you always get an Armour and/or Ward Save.
Yes, if model has Magic Resistance it is added to his Ward Save.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

 

[Labarna]

Thanks a lot, of course it helped, and now I have some new questions

1, Mistcast roll is played only after two 6 in casting phase, not in dispell phase ( after, two 6, or two 1)?
2, Always strike first rule has priority in charge too? Then a defending unit with ASF rule attacks before unit, which is charging?
3, Unit with higher iniciative every time can re-roll its negative rolls to hit in fight?
4 When is written in text of spell (Flames of the Phoenix from HE magic): unit suffers wound immediately, this is meaning without using saves?

Thank again, yesterday I had my first battle vs HE and those thing above were ours biggest problem.
But after all, I love this game

 

[n810]

Thanks a lot, of course it helped, and now I have some new questions

1, Mistcast roll is played only after two 6 in casting phase, not in dispell phase ( after, two 6, or two 1)?
(Irestible forece/miscast is when you throw two 6's when casting)

2, Always strike first rule has priority in charge too? Then a defending unit with ASF rule attacks before unit, which is charging?
(Yep ALL of the time, and if they have higher Initiave they also get to reroll their MISSES)

3, Unit with higher iniciative every time can re-roll its negative rolls to hit in fight?
(Just rolls to hit)

4 When is written in text of spell (Flames of the Phoenix from HE magic): unit suffers wound immediately, this is meaning without using saves?
(You get saves unless it specificaly says that you don't)

Thank again, yesterday I had my first battle vs HE and those thing above were ours biggest problem.
But after all, I love this game

Yea fighting against HE is a real up hill battle.

 

[cerebros]

2, Always strike first rule has priority in charge too? Then a defending unit with ASF rule attacks before unit, which is charging?

Yes, Always Strikes First does exactly what it says on the tin. Charging no longer has anything to do with the order units hit at (although it obviously does still provide other benefits to some units)

3, Unit with higher iniciative every time can re-roll its negative rolls to hit in fight?

A unit with Always Strikes First which has initiative that is equal to or higher than their opponent will re-roll failed misses in combat unless:

1) their opponent also has Always Strikes First (in which case both sides strike at the same time with no re-rolls from ASF)
or
2) they have also have the Always Strikes Last rule due to carrying Great Weapons (excepting High Elves) or as the result of a spell or other special rule such as the Aura of Frost (can't remember the exact name) from the Ogre Kingdoms monster

4 When is written in text of spell (Flames of the Phoenix from HE magic): unit suffers wound immediately, this is meaning without using saves?

Just to clarify, Flames of the Phoenix inflicts a hit immediately, not a wound. This means that instead of having to roll to hit (like you would iwith most combat or shooting attacks) you skip that and go straight to rolling to wound.

If your spell said "takes a wound immediately" that would mean there is no rolling to hit or wound and you progress straight on to taking your armour and regeneration or or ward saves, unless the wording of the spell says you do not get to take these saves (or the strenght of the attack or a Special Rule invoked by the spell elminates one of those saves - e.g. if the effects of the spell are Flaming then that Special Rule would stop you being able to take regeneration saves)

 

[Labarna]

Ok, thanks. I am not native speaker, thus i have problems with syntax and sense nuances of English language, which are used.

n810: It wasn't very nice game, mainly in magic, where I had spells of Heaves 1 and 2 and he has lore of HE with 5 and 6 , but after killing his mage with blood statuette of spite, battle became more balanced.
Now I am changing some thing, add salamanders,more sk skirmishers and making sc-vet little bit stronger.

 

[Labarna]

After second battle, I am back with more questions.

1,Charge Flank attack on my unit, can they use a shield?

2, Reaver bow of HE:is longbow, bearer can shoot 3 times at the same target in each his shooting phase and any hits are resolved at str. 5

He must roll for every one hit, all procedure, and my character can use in every time Hey Sir look rule when he is in unit (priest in skirmisher"s unit)),or only on first time?

3, Please, how I can defend me skink priest before shooting of HE (normal, or similar like this one above) Also I need some for making me lizard faster, or better protected from shooting or something (I play iceshard storm, Chotek standart, salamanders).
Second problem are units of Swordsmans of Hoeth.

Thank again.

 

[HoverBoy]

1,Charge Flank attack on my unit, can they use a shield?

No parry on attacks coming from the flank or rear.

2, Reaver bow of HE:is longbow, bearer can shoot 3 times at the same target in each his shooting phase and any hits are resolved at str. 5

This checks out.

He must roll for every one hit, all procedure, and my character can use in every time Hey Sir look rule when he is in unit (priest in skirmisher"s unit)),or only on first time?

He can't even target him unless he has the sniper rule, if you have less than 5 RNF models left you allocate the hits.

3, Please, how I can defend me skink priest before shooting of HE (normal, or similar like this one above) Also I need some for making me lizard faster, or better protected from shooting or something (I play iceshard storm, Chotek standart, salamanders).

That should actually work, other optionas are lightslaaan or lifeslaan, an engine is also possible.

Second problem are units of Swordsmans of Hoeth.

Saurus, or in units of 10 or less a charging stegadon.

 

[BEEGfrog]

1,Charge Flank attack on my unit, can they use a shield?

No parry on attacks coming from the flank or rear.

You do get increase in AS but do not get the additional parry ward from HW&Sh as Hoverboy says

 

[Labarna]

Another round of questions

1, Can I use Wind Blast on a unit with scout rule to take it out from forest?

2, Rule of Gor-rok shield. When he joins a unit, all models in are count as they are staying behind obstacle, or this rule is used only for Gor-rok?

3, Priest on EoG, he has plus 1 lvl to wizard and plus one dice to casting and dispeling?


Thanks again

 

[HoverBoy]

1, Can I use Wind Blast on a unit with scout rule to take it out from forest?

Yes, if there is nothing preventing the unit from moving.

3, Priest on EoG, he has plus 1 lvl to wizard and plus one dice to casting and dispeling?

He only gets +1 to cast and dispell but not a lvl, check the FAQ for details.

 

[Lord Tsunami]

2)
i cant find anything that implies that the bonuses would apply to the unit.

 

[Samo]

Hey,
I am back with some problem, again

1, When steg with EoG uses its ability, which gives ward same to units in around, its also counting for that steg? Because form text, its seem EoG producing something, as energy copula.
2, How directly is used drop rock of terradons? First, unit must move (vanguard for example) and then can drop rocks everywhere on battlefield? And after dropping, they can stay on same place, or must go on place of dropping, or some another move/ action?
3, I still have problem with my old profile Labarna, cant use my old password and is impossible sending a new pasword mail. Can someone help me with this?

Thanks Labarna

 

[SanDiegoSurrealist]

1. Yes the Ward applies to everything with in the bubble of the effect, that includes the Steg.

2. I don't use Terradons, but my understanding is it is and out of sequence shooting that is done in the movement phase. As you fly over a unit while moving you drop rocks on that unit as you pass over and land beyond the target unit.

3. I would direct message one of the site managers or email the webmaster.

 

[Lord Cedric]

Hey,
I am back with some problem, again

3, I still have problem with my old profile Labarna, cant use my old password and is impossible sending a new pasword mail. Can someone help me with this?

Thanks Labarna

Sorry that you're having issues. I'll send this to Sammy and see what we can do for you.

- Lord Cedric

 

[Samo]

Ah, then, I must fly over the unit, which I want bombing with rocks?

Thanks you, for everything mainly for problem with password.

 

[Samo]

Hey,
I am back with some problem, again

3, I still have problem with my old profile Labarna, cant use my old password and is impossible sending a new pasword mail. Can someone help me with this?

Thanks Labarna

Sorry that you're having issues. I'll send this to Sammy and see what we can do for you.

- Lord Cedric

Sorry, I did the mistake and report this message, I hope not make a problems.

 

[Lord Cedric]

Hey,
I am back with some problem, again

3, I still have problem with my old profile Labarna, cant use my old password and is impossible sending a new pasword mail. Can someone help me with this?

Thanks Labarna

Sorry that you're having issues. I'll send this to Sammy and see what we can do for you.

- Lord Cedric

Sorry, I did the mistake and report this message, I hope not make a problems.

No problem. I took care of the report. Though, I will say, at first I was a bit miffed then I saw what your additional comments were in the report and then understood. hehe. Accidents happen. Hey.. at least you now know how to file a report!

- Lord Cedric

 

[Durandal]

Ah, then, I must fly over the unit, which I want bombing with rocks? quote]
Yes. You may not, however, "Drop Rocks" when your Terradons perform a Charge.