8th Ed. Questions from a noob: Part 6 - new questions

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 2

Does this mean the enemy unit that is taken by surprise has to take 2 leadership tests in order to hold? 1 for the panic (fleeing friendlies coming through) and 1 from the terrifying Bastiladon?
What I'm trying to say: 2 leadership tests in 1 phase->allowed?

The Hunted

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 2

The rule is that you never have to take 2 panic tests in the same phase, not 2 leadership tests.

However, I looked up the rules just now, and I was indeed wrong: the BRB says terror counts as a panic test. So the panic rule applies after all, and you only have to test the once to prove your courage.

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 2

Here is the order that would happen in:

1st-Your opponent makes his flee roll from losing combat resolution.
2nd-You make your pursuit roll. (Since it was higher than your opponents roll, we continue with rules as "caught")
3rd-Remove opponent's unit that lost combat.
4th- Move your unit forward than distance rolled.
5th-If this brings you into contact with another enemy unit, it counts as charging in the following turn, unless it is already in a combat that has not fought this turn, then it gets a 2nd round this turn ).

Since the 2nd enemy unit is caught off guard, it does not have to make a Terror roll ( or Fear ), and can only "hold".
Since the 1st enemy unit never actually moved, it does not cause a panic test to any units it may have fled through if it did move, although all of your opponent's units within 6" would have to test for panic due to his unit breaking from combat.

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 2

Just have to add that rippers can never make a Flee! reaction since they have frenzy, wich means they are immune to psychology. (p.70-71 SRB)

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 2

ah okay I see

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 2

It works as he said, i think it's because the dice also shows an idea of their run speed (basically GW wanted it to work like that and made the rules like that ).

About the charge, monsters do not have swiftstride otherwise it'd say so in the BRB, meaning that neither the Stegadon nor the Bastiladon uses 3 dice, but has to settle for 2.

The advantage of the stegadon here is offcourse that when charging you get another 2" which really makes for a great difference, averaging about 13" instead of 11".

All units have a base charge dice total of 2d6, 3d6 are only gained by possesing the swiftstride rule.


Hope my explanation is understandable ^^

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 2

You seem to be using a couple of terms interchangeably here. If you charge someone and they run, it is called a flee reaction. If you beat someone in combat and they run, it is said that they broke form combat (break test).

Now for a break test which is what you seem to be describing, the unit that broke doesn't move unless it rolls higher than the unit pursuing. If it rolls less, it is destroyed on the spot and would never end up behind another unit. You can overrun into another combat if your pursuit roll is high enough to take you into another unit.

If the unit rolled higher and got away, then anything within 6" would need to take a panic check (actually everthing needs to whether they get away or not, except those that are immune to psychology), as well as any unit they might run through. And you can only force one panic check a turn, so a terror causer that overruns into the unit that passed its panic check would not have to take another.

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 2

Is this right? My understanding is that you roll the flee movement then move the unit - if it flees through a unit of it's own it bounces behind the friendly unit and ends up even further away. You then carry on declaring charges - once that is doen you then go on and roll charge distances - but now the original unit cannot be caught, the same as when you flee through impassable terrain, you can redirect into the unit behind with a leadership test otherwise you have to stop one inch away, The only time you test immediatly to check if you catch and destroy the unti is when you break in combat - but if you voluntarily flee from a charge through one of your units you can't be caught.

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 2

Steam Tanks do not have a Stomp attack. They are not Monsters, so they get no Thunderstomp. They are not Monstrous Beasts, Monstrous Infantry or Monstrous Cavalry and thus have no Stomp. The Steam Tank is a Chariot, with many special rules but still a Chariot and so it has no stomp of any kind.

Please keep asking your questions, they're good ones and informative to other players as well.

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 2

he can, but keep him protected in some way or another.

Mince usually run free in this way, resulting in several eagles trying to hunt them down, at which point they flee into the nearest safe unit.

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 3

- You never reroll a reroll. If you roll a natural 6, Curse makes you reroll it, and then the result stands. After you are done rolling to hit, each standing 6 will generate an additional attack off Predatory Fighter. If one of those new attacks rolls a 6, that die will have to be rerolled due to the curse.

- Mages cannot usually wear armor. You can download Army Builder for free and test out different kits, it is usually pretty accurate about what is allowed. Just be aware that it will sometimes show misleading armor save values for units with 2 handed weapons, such as halberds, and also shields; they can't use both in close combat, but they still get the +1 AS versus shooting. The armor save value Army Builder displays in these cases is the value versus shooting.

- Yes, warmachine crews take panic tests due to shooting. However, they don't flee if they fail, they cower under their warmachine and refuse to shoot instead.

- Yes, Stomp goes off of base strength.

- You can deploy them in your opponents zone, if you can find an appropriate spot.

- Yes, the Charmed Shield can deflect cannonballs. It doesn't negate the first thing that rolls to hit you, it negates the first thing that hits you. It's true that the cannonball hits automatically, but it still registers a hit, followed by a roll to wound. The way the Charmed Shield works, after the first hit is registered (automatically or otherwise), the person with the Charmed Shield rolls a die. If he rolls anything but a 1, that hit (whatever it was) is discarded.

- Once all units they are in base-to-base with have been vanquished, the Krox are out of combat and can do as they please. (p61 under Multiple Combats - No More Foes)

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 2

Watch out for those steamtank impact hits!

loving the questions and answers - really useful reading