8th Ed. Questions from a noob: Part 6 - new questions

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 5 - new questions

Boosted comet is very deadly against war machines. It starts at s6 and ramps up to 8 and 10 quickly. Heavens Skinks make excellent hand grenades (6 dice until you blow up)

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 5 - new questions

See page 95 of the BRB. Generally, a swift reform is any legal reform and still allows you to move or move and shoot even. As discussed on page 14 of the BRB wrt reforms, none of the individual models can move during the reform more than twice their normal movement rate.

Notes: Technically, in the spirit of the rules, I try to play so that the total distance covered in the movement phase (swfit reform plus move) does not exceed twice the movement rate. This issue will most likely arise when the unit has a relatively low M value and rotates as well as widens the unit size, like when one goes from a ranked up unit to a "Conga" line (single rank or file of models) that is wide or deep. It is not easy to check and one can get pretty rediculous about measuring and deciding how far each model actually moved, so one has to be reasonsable, like picking models on the far corners of the unit after the reform has been completed and checking to make sure they did not move too far. from the original footprint of the unit. I often forget this, but it is a really good practice to mark the original footprint of the unit with dice or a movement tray or something else and then you can measure and see if the reform is legal. Also, remember that a until with its M reduced to say 1 (such as due to a boosted miiasma spell) might be effectively limited in its ability to swift reform., and this is often neglected in play. A clommon trick with a unit with a model that is or models that are stubborn is to form a single line of models with the model in the front not being the model that is stubborn not being in front.

Any fire thrower shooting attacks that wound cause panic in the BRB (around p. 114).

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 5 - new questions

They were right that the razordon's shooting is not AP but wrong about the salamander. The key to the salamander is that the new army book (p. 46) clearly says that the shooting attack follows the rules for a fire thrower but for some exceptions (S4, instead of S5,; they clarified that the model is slow to fire to avoid giving it a stand and shoot reaction ability; and a misfire causes the salamander to eat skink handlers instead of rolling on the misfire table on p. 113 of the BRB). The BRB rules (p. 114) for fire throwers say that a unit wounded by a fire thrower shooting attack suffers panic. It would be nice if the author of the army book anticipated the issue, rather than referring the reader to the rules for fire throwers in the BRB and made it clear that a unit that suffers a wound from a fire thrower must take a panic test. Basically, salamanders are like mobile fire throwers just like skull cannons in the Daemons of chaos book generally follow the ruls for cannons in the BRB (but for the addition of flaming attacks).

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 5 - new questions

1) I think he just mixed up the disruption rule.

2) They can stand and shoot.

3) You use true line of sight, from wherever the model is parked on the ground. There is no benefit to LOS from flying, except that flying models tend to be tall or raised up off the ground somewhat.

4) Yes, the modifier to AS is still based off the strength of the attack.

5) Yes, terror is the turn you charge (at the time you charge). Fear happens every close combat round, before the round is fought. Terror-causers get both benefits.

6) If you give them both ASL and ASF, the two cancel each other out. The Kroxigors then strike at initiative speed (which is 1, so probably still last).

7) There is a difference between "distributed in the same manner as a shooting attack" and actually being a shooting attack. The TG do not get the 3+ AS vs. stomp attacks or impact hits.

 

When they enter melee they drop their shields and use both hands to wield the mighty halberds!


Also to disrupt you need to have ranks yourself, and it does NOT remove steadfast. The only way to remove steadfast (that i know of) is to have more ranks thank your enemy yourself.

 

Re: Questions from a noob: Part 5 - new questions

Where do you find this?

While page 70 of the BRB describes the units planting down nicely on the ground, is also states that the unit might see over intervening units "depending on the flying model's height and/or position". It never states to measure LoS from the beasts grounded position and true LoS is measured from the eyes of the beast.