Tutorial Seraphon List for Battletome 2.o

Hi everyone, I'm quite new to AOS, so this site was a huge help. My army consists mainly saurus, so I wanted to use them as coalesced and I was thinking about bringing Soulscream Bridge against shooting lists, but I would like to get an opinion from more experienced players - is it useful and is it worth it? "Units completely at 6" bother me - I don't think 40-saurus unit would fit.

 

not really what the soulscream is for to be honest and without the realm boost to the range it's not great for moving melee units. also makes them very vulnerable to being wrapped if they don't make that 9" charge. instead i would use screens and run them down the middle not that much slower

 

Ok, thank you for the help. You may be right that 12" isn't worth the trouble. Pity tho, i was hoping for some shenanigans for coalesced, especially for firelance - +3" makes the charge more than possible.

 

My first instinct was to alpha strike with this list blowing the boulders turn 1 on a key unit to completely annihilate it. I would play it as the Starpriest and Skink Priest giving all of their buffs (all of them) onto the Terradons, so they're +1 to hit run and shoot and charge and mortal on 6's to wound and the like. Drop the chronomatic cogs and run them across the board and dive into enemy lines turn 1 for shooting and fighting.

Lords of Space and Time the Kroxigors to charge into another unit with +3 to charge having set the constellation to +1 to run and charge.

Then perhaps throw out the skinks behind them to shoot and stand on valueable objectives especially on maps like Focal Points.

However it seems you'd send in the skinks first and foremost, and hold the terradons back for a later turn? And hold back the Kroxigors for awhile longer in fact?

Is this list not so much an alpha strike list? It seems the terradons are so delicate they'd die to a stiff breeze so might as well kamikaze them in turn 1 for maximum fun and damage to get any sort of use from them? IDK.

I love this list cuz it has everything I love: Kroxigors, Terradon models, Slanns, all the skinks (haha so cute omg i love skinks <3) and it's basically the ideal list of all the models I love and seems to be powerful enough to compete, and with minor tweaks can be a top tier list (sub some stuff for kroak, add salamanders and diff endless spells).

Is Seraphon not an aggro turn 1 smash army but more of a finesse wait and see kind of set up a trap like "hey come get my skinks!" and they're like "lol thanks for the free kill nerd" and charge in and delete them and then you're like "Psych now I charge you with kroxigors and terradons gg" ?

 

that’s puts it at 1870 out of 2000... then fill with Skinks?

 

The other version of this list with Kroak and Salamanders, is that the most competitive version? I like Kroxigors so I loved this list and it was listed as Semi-Competitive I think. Do you think the Starstrike host brings much value to the Alternate Kroxigor version? Preferably I'd keep everything on the board due to when the buffs all happen.

Edit: This seems like a list that wants to use at least 1 CP every turn, and possibly 2 in the beginning, so it seems slightly CP hungry. Is the Battalion's extra Artefact and CP not worth its points?

Not sure where to go cuz I thought the posted one was a really strong list xD I just love it cuz it's got kroxigors and skinks and terradons and everything I like.

 

Dropping the battalion doesn't seem so bad. I can add Kroak and 2 sets of 10 skinks for 40/20/20, I can add 5 Guard to help Kroak live more, or I can just bring a normal slann and fit in a Skink Starseer. It seems there's some wiggle room here. Not sure what's the "optimum choice". My gut says probably Kroak and 5 guard. Although more skinks can't hurt (except my wallet...and my paint brush...)

 

I've used Terradons and haven't loved them. Let me know if you have better luck!

 

Thats basically where i am. I've struggled to maximize my terradons output, there's just so much you need to get right to get the damage out of them you want.

I didn't have a ton of experience using them in the last book, so that might be why.

 

oh im totally going to meme a list lol. ALL the terradons with a chief in a shadow strike. im nuking the absolute shit out of one thing and then dying horribly by round 3 lol

 

Oooooooooooooooh! I looooooove chameleon skinks! I have no experience with Seraphon since their first battletome and all I had was Saurus Knights, Warriors and carnosaurs with a few of the stegadons.

So honestly I just want everything and to play with it all, but I loooove chameleon skinks. I'm super happy to hear they're properly good!!

I myself, however, like melee skinks because then, IMO, it's easier to get wholly within 6'' for the Kroxigors for that +1 to hit, at least in my mind. Seems like Terradon Riders have the same base size as a Megaboss on foot, so that's pretty big. If they both crash into a unit it's probably sure to die! I don't know if there's a more efficient way to make it easier to get that wholly within 6'' for the +1 hit though. Just feels intuitively that being in melee would help with that. So crashing Terradons in to clear a unit in unison with kroxigors was how I was going to play it. Maybe chameleon skinks can do the same though I love 'em!

 

The damage potential of 9 Terradons + Chief is very real, but as you said so much has to go right and your opponent needs to not screen his specific unit or shoot your guys off etc. It is also once a game you get to do it.

Salamanders just seem much easier to use. Constant and consistent damage throughout the entire game. Significantly easier to use with little risk. Still performs great with teleport. I have stopped including Terradons in my lists unfortunately.

 

So are the lists at the start of this thread just starter lists but not really the best lists anymore? Was it more theorycraft? because a LOT of the lists seem to use terradons, salamanders and kroak in some combination or other.

Also it seems Coalsced aren't top tier or particularly competitive. So it's more or less like the first book with skinks and ranged being king and the Saurus get the short end of the stick