Tutorial Seraphon Overview (updated to AoS 3.0)

The pile-in could also work I guess, but terradons seem to like being on the ground for now Rippers seem to have an easier time though dropping from the sky.

 

Yeah. Rippers yes, terradons not likely. Now vs a low shooting army you could use SS to drop terradons behind the enemy, or on a flank, along a row of skinks in front of the terradons to screen them. Then next turn you have a better chance of terradons doing their thing. (Especially if positioning allows you to somehow use the FoS ability on the skinks to shoot and then prevent the charge)

edit: slightly better odds if you have potential for a double turn

 

I didn’t have much trouble. I was using Fangs of sotek as my constellation so I had an extra 3 inches of move characteristic from First to Battle. Got to charge of a unit a drop rocks on it, then do some damage and tie up another unit with melee.

 

Before, the rippers were the payload for shadowstrike. Now, I figure that (with FoS at least) the skinks are in play as well. Not for raw damage potential, mind you.

I see a viable strategy in dropping down 2 large units of skinks and a priest behind enemy lines and near an objective or two, ideally in cover if possible (and the priest behind LoS-blocking terrain). You could LoSaT another hero behind them also, like a starpriest.

If they ignore the skinks they will be in a fair bit of trouble. If they charge them, at least 1 of 2 units should be able to run using the FoS CA.

This still leaves the terradons (or rippers even) to zoom in and drop their payload/charge whenever.

And if you can wait on dropping the Skinks until a turn you go second, you can hopefully capitalize on a double turn.

As I write this, I am very cognizant of the fact that this requires a lot of good fortune in terrain placement, deployment, etc, in addition to really good tactical placement of units. But I kind of feel a lot of our combos now rely on some mixture luck and synergy.

Sample List:

Kroak - 320
Astrolith - 140
Starpriest - 120
Terradon Chief - 70

10 Skinks - 60

Shadowstrike - 170
Skink Priest - 70
40 Skinks with blowpipes - 240
20 Skinks with blowpipes - 120 (*if expecting a charge, you could make one unit spears and put it up front. The blowpipes can still shoot from behind them, but when they are charged the spears have a better chance of wounding)
9 Terradons - 270

3 Salamanders - 240

Realmshaper Engine - 0
Balewind (u) - 40
Bound Purple Sun - 60
Bound Geminids - 70

1990

You can play around with the endless spells and either bolster your battleline, add more support, etc. Just spitballing.

(edited because I can’t stop dreaming about skinks)

 

it's why im fairly non pulsed when it comes to healing. it's far better to prevent damage then to heal it

 

I like the idea, but I hate this 4+ roll on CA so much. On the other hand, your opponent cannot rely on failing it either.

B-but... bastiladons! Let's just imagine that mortal wounds doesn't exist. Ignore the problem and it will be gone by itself, right? Right?

 

This. Assuming you have a few command points to spare at the time and you use your extra artefact to slap an aetherquartz brooch on the hero skink, you can really play some mind games. Especially if you drop them in such a way that they can’t be dealt with in one shot with one charge. It also takes the heat off your end of the board.

Again, it is somewhat situational, but I am liking the idea more and more... now I need to get 9 (+1) Terradons from somewhere...

 

meh, imho it's fine in casual games but that'l definitly be an issue in more competitive games where people optimize things.

I'm curious what kinda rules would be necesary to stop it from happening though, or at least to make it come at a "fair" cost (e.g. killing a bastiladon in 1 turn would be fine if it takes the entire enemy army, instead of 1 terrorgheist eating him without needing support leaving the rest of the army free to rampage).

 

Overbuffed hordes are cancer.

 

overall in the meta you mean?

 

hordes simply scale too well since everything works on a per model basis. There should be some kind of limit to the amount of models that can benefit from a buff, or even that can get into a fight. Buffing 30+ models with a single spell is simply ridiculously efficient even if they have terrible baseline stats

 

I'd prefere better monsters. GW made some steps in that direction, but now everything is again where we started.

 

But didn't that hurt monsters as much as hordes?