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Discussion in 'Seraphon Army Lists' started by Wilhelm Stürmer, Jan 12, 2019.

  1. Wilhelm Stürmer
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    Okay, here's an updated 2K list. I still haven't decided on the Artefact realm. I love Ghyrstrike, but with three battalions, I can take FOUR Artefacts. I don't think Ghyran has 4 decent Artefacts, but then I'm not sure which realm will. Also, I left 60 points off. I can take one more unit of Skinks, Cogs, or even an additional command point to start my Turn 1 with 5 CP! Thoughts?

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    Mortal Realm: Ulgu

    Leaders
    Slann Starmaster (260)
    - General
    - Trait: Great Rememberer
    - Artefact: Miasmatic Blade
    Skink Starpriest (80)
    - Artefact: Spellmirror
    Saurus Scar-Veteran on Cold One (100)
    - Artefact: Betrayer's Crown
    Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (260)
    - Artefact: Sword of Judgement

    Battleline
    10 x Skinks (60)
    - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers
    10 x Skinks (60)
    - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers
    5 x Saurus Knights (90)
    - Lances
    5 x Saurus Knights (90)
    - Lances
    5 x Saurus Knights (90)
    - Lances

    Units
    6 x Ripperdactyl Riders (280)
    4 x Razordons (160)

    Battalions
    Firelance Starhost (150)
    Shadowstrike Starhost (180)
    Dracothion's Tail (80)

    Endless Spells
    Chronomantic Cogs (60)

    Total: 2000 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 3
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 110
     
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    LizardWizard Grand Skink Handler Staff Member

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    I think you know what artifacts I would recommend:D

    Cogs helps DT alot. Take them for sure.
     
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    Ulgu, right?

    Edit: See above for the edited 2K list
     
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    I've entered into 1 7-week escalation league, starting at 500 MPP, increasing by 250 each week. I can make any list I like each game, but it has to remain the same army (easy for me, as this is the only army I currently own). The only conditions the league has is this listing:

    Week 1 – 500 Pts – AQSHY, Realm of Fire - May 5th 2019
    Week 2 – 750pts – GHUR, Realm of Beasts - May 12th 2019
    Week 3 – 1000pts – HYSH, Realm of Light - May 19th 2019
    Week 4 – 1250pts – SHYISH, Realm of Death - May 26th 2019
    Week 5 – 1500pts – ULGU, Realm of Shadows - June 2nd 2019
    Week 6 – 1750pts – GHYRAN, Realm of Life - June 9th 2019
    Week 7 – 2000pts – CHAMON, Realm of Metal - June 16th 2019

    Points will be assigned for several factors, including painting, so half the reason I joined was to attempt to motivate me to get painting! I hope to play the first week before the weekend. 500 MPP isn't much to work with and I will likely be playing FEC. Here's the list I'm thinking of feilding:

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    Mortal Realm: Ghyran

    Leaders
    Skink Starpriest (80)
    - General
    - Trait: Master of Star Rituals
    Saurus Scar-Veteran on Cold One (100)
    - Artefact: Ghyrstrike

    Battleline
    10 x Saurus Knights (180)
    - Lances
    20 x Skinks (120)
    - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers

    Endless Spells
    Soulsnare Shackles (20)

    Total: 500 / 500
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Allies: 0 / 200
    Wounds: 51

    There won't be objectives. Skinks will shoot and screen. I'll use the CP I have on Savage Charge and hope for Mortal Wounds. I've played around with a couple lists and can't decide on a "best". Any feedback is welcome.
     
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    LizardWizard Grand Skink Handler Staff Member

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    How about this:

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    - Mortal Realm: Ulgu

    LEADERS:
    Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur
    (260)
    - Artefact : Doppelganger Cloak
    Skink Starpriest (80)
    - General
    - Command Trait : Master of Star Rituals


    UNITS:
    10 x Skinks (60)
    - Meteoric Javelins & Star Bucklers
    5 x Saurus Knights (90)
    - Lances

    TOTAL: 490/500
    EXTRA COMMAND POINTS: 0
    WOUNDS: 36

    The Carno will help you to deal with Terrogeist and Zombie Dragons.
     
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    Good idea, though I think he's going to have a tough time bringing a 400 MPP unit and still field two Battlelines, when their cheapest is 100 MPP. At 750 though, I will likely use this setup.
     
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    LizardWizard Grand Skink Handler Staff Member

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    The behemoth version is only 300 points and battleline if they are Gristlegore, but they might not bring any.
     
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    True. I only see one way that works, though.

    Allegiance: Flesh Eater Courts
    - Grand Court: Gristlegore
    Crypt Ghast Courtier (60)
    - General
    10 x Crypt Ghouls (100)
    Royal Terrorgheist (300)

    Total: 460 / 500
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Allies: 0 / 200
    Wounds: 28

    He still could do that... Now I'm even more unsure, lol.

    After reading into it, that would be pretty wasted. Allowing the Ghast Courtier to attack first isn't really a threat and probably not worth using the Doppleganger Cloak on.
     
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    LizardWizard Grand Skink Handler Staff Member

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    That is what I would do:D

    Behemoths can be very hard to counter at 500MPP.
     
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    Good point. There's also the bonus that I am currently painting the Carnosaur.
     
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    So the week of 500 MPP in Aqshy is over and today began the 750 MPP in Ghur week. At this point I'm planning a game against a Tzeentch player and likely I'll play against Gwendar's FEC again. I was dabbling in the idea of using Shadowstrike against Tzeentch, though that would only give my 90 MPP to play with. Against FEC, I'm definitely going to take the Oldblood on Carnosaur with Doppelganger Cloak. What's my fellow Seraphon player's advice?
     
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    LizardWizard Grand Skink Handler Staff Member

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    Perhaps either of these two list:

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    - Mortal Realm: Ghur

    LEADERS:
    Skink Starpriest
    (80)
    -General
    - Command Trait : Master of Star Rituals
    - Artefact : Gryph-feather Charm


    UNITS:
    2x Razordons (80)
    10 x Skinks (60)
    - Meteoric Javelins & Star Bucklers
    10 x Skinks (60)
    - Meteoric Javelins & Star Bucklers
    6 x Ripperdactyl Riders (280)

    BATTALIONS:
    Shadowstrike Starhost
    (180)

    TOTAL: 740/750
    EXTRA COMMAND POINTS: 1
    WOUNDS: 48

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    - Mortal Realm: Ulgu

    LEADERS:
    Skink Starpriest
    (80)
    - General
    - Command Trait : Master of Star Rituals
    Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (260)
    - Artefact : Doppelganger Cloak

    UNITS:
    4 x Razordons (160)
    3 x Razordons (120)
    10 x Skinks (60)
    - Meteoric Javelins & Star Bucklers
    10 x Skinks (60)
    - Meteoric Javelins & Star Bucklers

    TOTAL: 740/750
    EXTRA COMMAND POINTS: 0
    WOUNDS: 57

    The Oldblood list might be better if you think you have to fight a Lord or Change. Rippers are good at killing pink horrors though.
     
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    Good stuff, @LizardWizard. I am 3 Razordons short for the second list unfortunately.I do have two Salamanders though.

    Would replacing them with 3x Terradons be good? Or I could take the 2x Salamanders and either have an extra CP or an Endless Spell?
     
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    How about this list?

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    Mortal Realm: Ulgu

    Leaders
    Slann Starmaster (260)
    - General
    - Trait: Great Rememberer
    Skink Starpriest (80)
    - Artefact: Spellmirror

    Battleline
    10 x Skinks (60)
    - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers
    10 x Skinks (60)
    - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers

    Units
    4 x Razordons (160)
    2 x Salamanders (80)
    3 x Skink Handlers (40)

    Total: 740 / 750
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Allies: 0 / 200
    Wounds: 52
     
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    Week 3 is upon me! This week the Mortal Realm is Hysh and battles are at 1000 MPP. I've considered taking Shadowstrike, but I also really want a Slann and the more I look at a list with both of those wants, the less I like it. It's simply not enough points to provide adequate summoning and damage. So, I think I'll take Shadowstrike at 1250 and use this list for 1K:

    Leaders
    Slann Starmaster (260)
    - General
    - Trait: Great Rememberer

    Skink Starpriest (80)

    Battleline
    10 x Skinks (60)
    - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers
    10 x Skinks (60)
    - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers

    Units
    4 x Razordons (160)
    6 x Ripperdactyl Riders (280)

    Endless Spells
    Balewind Vortex (40)
    Chronomantic Cogs (60)

    Total: 1000 / 1000
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Allies: 0 / 200
    Wounds: 61

    Plenty of damage, some objective control, and loads of CCP. At 6 drops, I'll probably be about 50% for winning deployment in our league. I will attempt to stay outside of unbind range for casting the Endless Spells and than bank all the CCP I can, bringing in units as needed. Hysh has a fantastic Command Ability I may be able to utilize and several spells that are fantastic. Should be a fun week.

    I'm torn on what Artefact to bring. Ignax's Scales, Miasmic Blade, or another... Any suggestions on list building or game play advice are, as always, highly appreciated.
     
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    Looks solid. :)
     
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    The local escalation league is at the 1750 MPP mark and I went about building the list with the new point values. I've got 80 MPP I could use and I'm torn on what to do. 10 more Skinks (either adding to a unit or a 3rd unit), an Endless Spell, or maybe start with another CP? What do y'all think?

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    Mortal Realm: Ulgu

    Leaders
    Slann Starmaster (260)
    - General
    - Trait: Great Rememberer
    - Artefact: Miasmatic Blade
    - Spell: Meteoric Convocation
    Skink Starpriest (80)
    - Artefact: Spellmirror
    - Spell: Mystical Unforging
    Saurus Scar-Veteran on Cold One (100)
    - Artefact: Betrayer's Crown

    Battleline
    10 x Skinks (70)
    - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers
    10 x Skinks (70)
    - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers
    5 x Saurus Knights (80)
    - Lances
    5 x Saurus Knights (80)
    - Lances
    5 x Saurus Knights (80)
    - Lances

    Units
    3 x Razordons (120)
    6 x Ripperdactyl Riders (280)

    Battalions
    Shadowstrike Starhost (180)
    Firelance Starhost (150)

    Endless Spells / Terrain
    Chronomantic Cogs (80)
    Balewind Vortex (40)

    Total: 1670 / 1750
    Extra Command Points: 2
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 95
     
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    I would add another 5 knights to a unit, 10 knights is worth spending 2-3 cp on with cold one scar vet , 5 knights isnt. (although personally i would drop the cogs as well to make it a 15man unit to really synergise from the CP stacking)
     
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    Yeah, I wanted to do this, but then remembered I only have 15 Knights >_<
     
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    I am just worried your list has plenty of utility/objective holding but no real damage dealers apart from rippers.

    I would either drop the cogs and get either a starpriest+purple sun, or another 3 razors and a random spell
    or i would drop the firelance, group the knights up into a 15man unit, then grab 3 razors and a scar vet on cold one(or a starpriest+purple sun+scarvet)
     
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