Star Wars Episode VIII - The Last Jedi

It's because of the "Force is Female" identity politics angle. The force isn't male or female, but they keep pushing it. All (or at least most) the male characters are portrayed as imbeciles or incompetent, while the female characters run the show. Don't get me wrong, a strong female character is awesome (Ripley from Aliens series, Sarah Connor from Terminator 2, etc.), but not when you are pushing them forward simply because of identity politics (like Ghostbusters 2016). Just create great characters (male or female) and great stories, but keep politics out of it. A movie like Star Wars is supposed to be an escape, not another avenue through which to be preached to.

 

Exactly. I hate it and now all tv shows have A. A black person and B. A female main character. While there isn’t anything wrong with these it is awful how now they ALWAYS HAVE THEM. They should just make shows and of hey have any of these then so be it.

 

Precisely. Let the story dictate what characters you have and let the characters serve the story (and vice versa). I don't like external political influences interfering with the process. Diversity is great, but forced diversity is horrible!

 

Fair enough. While it could be perceived as ‘fair’ to ensure people from previously oppressed (if that’s the right word) have roles, true equality would mean that people are chosen based on merit. Gender, race or sexual orientation should play no part. Unfortunately, I think some places would still perhaps discriminate if given the chance, which is why we probably need it enforced, if not legally than through public scrutiny. Unfortunately, for those who would choose through merit, it forces them to take on these roles just to tick boxes

 

It’s not that I don’t want minorities to be actors. I have no objections to woman actors or anything. What irritates me is the principal of it being necessary. I get mad because every tv show has a certain criteria they must include. Not that there is anything wrong with the criteria but I hate how it’s necessary.

 

This is exactly what I would like to see.

At the end of the day, everyone should be free to cast their movie/show as they wish and let capitalism sort out the rest.

But there is nothing stopping someone from making a film with all minorities or all women, etc. Having a movie that lacks diversity doesn't prevent someone from producing a movie that is completely diverse. No one will tell you that you are not allowed, if you can sell it to the audience you will be successful. I think that if someone is truly discriminatory it will end up hurting them in terms of profit.

Exactly! It's the forced necessity that is the issue. I watched Black Panther which is nearly completely comprised of minorities and I enjoyed it... nothing felt forced about it. Everything fit with the story and the theme.

 

SO TRUE LOL! Unfortunately they had to fill up their drama quota.

 

I totally agree with this. I think it’s ridiculous that so much politics go into tv shows. I wouldn’t be offended if there was a show with all white men or all black women etc. it doesn’t matter, what matters is if the show is good. They force to much political efforts into it and it ruins shows. I don’t care that Rey is a girl but I don’t think it’s a necessity, it’s not against minorities or anything in fact using minorities as an example is logically flawed because they ARE equal already. By reminding people of former divides just brings them into play again. This issue needs to be addressed in society or it will never end.

 

Ok was it something that I said? Nobody has commented and it’s freaking me out lol. Am I being shunned?

 

Pretty much what @Aginor said! Most of us seem to be in a fair bit of agreement, at least for the most part. A rarity in contrast to our typical Star Wars discussions.


However to emphasize the point, consider that one of the most beloved of the Prequel characters happened to be a minority. However, his inclusion always felt like it was made with the intention of making the movies better (which it did!!) rather than an obligatory check in the minority inclusion checklist. Never once did it feel like political meddling.

Spoiler: I speak of course of the legendary...

 

Oh ok lol I was worried lol. Everything went silent lol.

 

It just happens from time to time.

Your input on the topic was excellent.

 

Ty lol some people would get so mad if you said something like that.