8th Ed. Telepathic Confabulation and Remains in Play Spells

[Scalenex]

Assuming I have two Slann. Can I have two of the same Remains in Play spells if I cast them sequentially. Lets say I'm taking Life (Slann A) and Death (Slann B).

Turn 1:
Winds of Magic roll is poor despite Slann B using Forbidden Rod, Slann A casts Throne of Vines and nothing else is cast successfully

Turn 2:
Winds of Magic spell is great
Slann A who still has Throne of Vines in play at the start of Turn 2, swaps Throne of Vines with Slann B to pick up Purple Sun and cast it with six dice (yay miscast protection).
Slann B casts his own Throne of Vines to heal the wound he took from the Forbidden Rod last round and to give himself miscast protection for a battery of hero sniping spells he wants to attempt.

Is that legal?

 

[rychek]

I would argue that Slann B is fully capable of casting Throne of Vines without impacting the already in play spell cast by Slann A. Slann B is completely seperate from Slann A, regardless of how Slann B obtained the spell.

On the other hand, it could be argued that the spell can only be in play once due to the way spells are generated (no spell may generated by more than one wizard in an army using random generation, except signature spells).

I'd still stick with the first paragraph though. If you fielded Mazdamuni and a regular Life Slann, both could have Throne and have it active simultaneously. The end result isn't any different in your example IMO.

 

[Qupakoco]

Wow, I can see that being really useful. Good call Scalenex. I thought the spell swapping rule was kind of silly at first.

Can... Lord Kroak swap his spell? I don't have my book nearby.

 

[rychek]

Unfortunately no. Lord Kroak does not have the Telepathic Confabulation rule like the living Slann do.

 

[Scalenex]

Unfortunately no. Lord Kroak does not have the Telepathic Confabulation rule like the living Slann do.

And it specifically says if it's stolen or transferred, Kroak automatically gets his spell back and the other wizard losing it.

I would argue that Slann B is fully capable of casting Throne of Vines without impacting the already in play spell cast by Slann A. Slann B is completely seperate from Slann A, regardless of how Slann B obtained the spell.

On the other hand, it could be argued that the spell can only be in play once due to the way spells are generated (no spell may generated by more than one wizard in an army using random generation, except signature spells).

I'd still stick with the first paragraph though. If you fielded Mazdamuni and a regular Life Slann, both could have Throne and have it active simultaneously. The end result isn't any different in your example IMO.

Oh yeah! As my gaming circle gradually moves from 2750 to the low end of grand armies I see myself actually running two Slann armies in the future. Without Lore Mastery I can see a lot of reason for swapping spells.

 

[Caprasauridae]

Well, with Loremaster you can have the same (non-signature) spell twice in your army and I have never seen any debate whether they both can cast remains in play spells the same time. This is a bit different, as it is, essentially the same spell. Yet another thing that needs a FAQ, but I would say you can cast it, as per rychek's first argument.