8th Ed. The official guide to using the 8th edition Slann!(Finished)

I knew there was a loophole, sorry No clue about Dwarfs. So short, I didn't even realise they're there
So, I'm now gonna use these 4 Disciplines: Focus of Mystery, The Focused Rumination, Unfathomable Presence and The Becalming Cogitation. I'll also take Divine Plaque of Protection.

Thanks for the pointer

 

Would be cool, but no. I'm pretty sure the wording for that has been changed in the FAQ now anyway, and even if it hasn't it specifically said only while casting spells does he raise up above the unit.

 

I thought about this and I actually take my slann off the clear spike he comes with when someone tries to cast at him because they can't see him over a hill if he isn't floating up. And the rules clearly state he doesn't float all the time.

 

Yeah that is a bit annoying now that TLOS is in but the rules for the Slann actually give it a different height. It is easy when he is in TG, just ignore the Slann and if the opponent can't see the TG they can't shoot the unit. To be honest, when he is on his own I don't think its quite fair to the opposition to drop him down when he is being shot at. I know he only raises up when he is in TG, but technically the model with the stalk is what you get with the kit so thats what really should be used for LoS.

 

I am really hoping for more posts like these, as I've just started as 8th has come out and need all the help I can get, especially for a newly spawned one such as myself.

 

I dont really like the feedback scroll, i refuse to let a powerfull spell to be cast on my main unit. The Trickster Shard could work for me in a turn that i really need to get some spells to buff my units or to hurt the other guy.

 

ok thx for the explanation. 1. point clear now. edit: OMG... i have NO idea how i managed to miss the point price for bsb... anyway, lets move on.

as for last point, i know 2 sixes make for IF AND miscast. But heres the catch im trying to figure out! the TBC rule says it ignores sixes and prevents IF.... NOT MISCAST! therefore, it seems obvious the spell counts as going off (miscast -> 2 sixes...), making us able to use the feedback scroll anyway (dunno if thats evil or something, but if u use the feedback first, and than discard the dices...i didnt think of that before, but if all other arguments fail? ). if, after miscast discarded dice make also for failed cast attempt and broken concentration, thats just another bummer for the oposing wizard

but, if my argument is for some reason invalid or put down by an update or something, bane head/TBC combo just plainly blows. potentially blowing up the opposing wizz doesnt make it for me losing slann and all of the temple guard to some initiative spell!

btw, sorc lord on tzeentch disc could always make sure to be more than 24" away from slann, but not from temple guard unit... bye bye slann if something nasty goes off...

 

Here's a sneaky trick that I've found.

Give your Slann General BSB the Standard of Discipline for +1 Ld. You have now paid very few points to get a Ld10 Cold Blooded re-rolling 12" bubble. The +1Ld makes a big difference to break tests where you have lost by quite a margin, especially when the CR loss makes you test on Ld3-6, due to the density of the probability distribution around those numbers (maths talk, basically +1Ld makes a big difference for those nail biting break tests, much more for Cold Blooded than for normal Ld races).

There is some debate on the legality of this (see the banner's entry in BRB), but about 90% of those that I have discussed it with agree that it is legitimate.

 

saurus units should normally be steadfast tough, you can revive them if necessary

 

They will just dispell it with one dice on their magic phase. I had a game where WoC would dispell it on his magic phase then we argued about wether the spells cast with throne still held the buffed value or reverted back to the base value. I wasn't sure so I let him have it. Any thoughts on this?

 

same question as: when you cast throne are spells allready cast buffed by it? the question goes to moment of casting or moment of importance. if its moment of casting then you got for the "if it was up when it was casted, its improved" interpretation but if its moment of importance you go for the "is throne of vines up at the moment?".

i'm on the moment of casting side

 

Um no, page 496, lore of life,
Direct quote
It does not change the effects of spells that are already been cast

 

ohh.... should read spells more carefully. never used it that way, but i'm still under the impression that once the spell is cast under the effect of throne of vines it remains that way untill it ends, either by dispelling or by reaching its "time" limit

 

That's a really good question. Since it doesn't effect spells already cast, I would say that the reverse is also true: if removed it doesn't take away the bonuses. Definitely in need of an FAQ though.

 

The thing that annoys me is armies with no wizards can roll for the winds of magic in their turns and dispel remains in play spells,
Stupid lawery dwarfs,

 

I agree that the buffs are not removed if Throne is dispelled as long as it was in effect when the buffed spell was cast.

I have another question related to Throne of Vines. If a Slann miscasts (2 or more 6's) when casting Throne of Vines, does he get the Throne's miscast protection? Basically, does the miscast roll come before or after the spell takes effect?

 

yep the spell effect goes off before the miscast...
its in the magic section of the rules where it goes
over the steps of the magis phase.

 

confirmed.

the spell is succesfully cast, all effects happen, the the miscast occurs, so with throne of vines, a double 6 means that you ge tall teh ebenfits and then you roll a 2+ to negate the miscast. even if the miscast happened from casting throne of vines.

i was talking to a friend of mine, also a good warhamemr player who plays WOC and DE and he agrees that taking away the bonuses from throne of vines by dispelling it in subsequent phases is unresonable.