The Ultimate Middle-Earth SBG Thread

Discussion in 'General Hobby/Tabletop Chat' started by Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl, Feb 9, 2022.

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    Slann

    Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl Eleventh Spawning

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    The only new models they've had are for Blood Bowl at this point. You're correct in that they have a fully-functioning PDF army list for TOW as Lizardmen, Ogres, Vampires and the other 'Legacy' factions do, but you can only go so far with a set of rules without having equivalent models to use them with :D. Of course there are alternative manufacturers that make models for many of the units (Mantic's Abyssal Dwarfs being my favourites), but it'd still be great to see a full-on GW plastic army release appear.
     
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    I think there have been hints that they be making a comeback in this latest edition of Age of Sigmar. But that could easily be wishful thinking from AoS Fanta that are also Chorf fans.

    Honestly, in TOW, what I most want, aside from all the classic races, is for the world to be expanded. Give Kislev their roster, give us Grand Cathay as GeeDubs teased us years back. Give formal rules for Tilea and Estalia. Release an army list for Araby. Etc etc.

    They won't. But it doesn't cost anything to imagine such a timeline where GeeDubs are still run by the passionate enthusiasts and not the corporate overlords.
     
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    I believe those to be competing ideas. Expanding into the Warhammer world would decrease the chances of the classic races being restored, and vice versa. TOW is a smaller game for GW and they are only willing to invest so much in terms of resources. Classic armies require less investment, but new armies probably have a higher rate of return. My guess would be on new races.

    Then again, it's GW, so who knows!
     
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    Barely any, just the material cost of manufacturing what they already have moulds for.

    You'd certainly think so. Especially considering how many people still had their old collections, so a whole new army is an untapped potential for new and old players alike to buy into.
     
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    There is more than that. They need storage space for it and if sold in stores, shelf space too. There are transport costs. Repackaging costs. And so on. So while it is relatively resource light, they would still need to allocate resources away from other games in order to re-release legacy army units. Games Workshop has a finite manufacturing and storage capacity.

    And as far as their big games go...
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    Plus it instantly drums up hype. New models are exciting.
     
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    If they changed the lore I admit I'd lose interest. I like the fact that they aren't unified as it makes them unique. I get what you're saying but if they were how you described they would feel, IMO, just the same as the Empire. I love my Empire army but I don't want two of them, I mean I do but that's hobby madness. I'd still be happy if they released the old models but I wouldn't use them in this game. They would stay in my 7th and 8th edition games.
     
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    I feel the same way. It's a rag-tag group of mercenaries working together for coin. Since when have mercenaries ever had any real sense of loyalty? We already have many "conventional" armies; Dogs of War feels like something uniquely different. I wouldn't want that changed.

    I've never played the Dogs of War, but I'd love to see them get an updated modern model refresh They have infinite potential.
     
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    Thinking on it, that recommendation I gave on the Games Workshop allows you to greenlight a project, what do you choose? thread, about a ruleset specifically about creating your own faction... that could easily work for a Dogs of War ruleset, an open set of rules to create an entirely unique army for yourself, with official DoW doubling as examples of the rules at work.
     
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    That is very true. Why did Games Workshop cancel those Forge World models? They seemed like up to date modern sculpts. Are they getting new AoS plastic models maybe?

    Why not? What if their TOW rules were really good and they were made to be a fully fledged army?

    Did they have 8th edition rules?
     
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    Do you know the Dogs of War will be getting an army in Total War: Warhammer? That might provide some insight as to whether or not they will ever get a model/rules update in tabletop and what such an update might look like.
     
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    Only in Warhammer Armies Project but those were pretty balanced and fun. I'd like to have rules for them either way the issue with changing the base idea for them is that it would change the creative process for units. Yes I would like the streamlined rules so it plays like an army but not so much that it would feel like Empire mark II. I don't know how to express it well writing it down.
     
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    Sorry for double post I'm not the best with technology. I'd love to see that! I've only seen a guy on YouTube with a mod that made his army the Dogs. What they make will definitely give insight into what they are doing. Hopefully something amazing!
     
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