Warhammer Meme thread

Hate might be a bit strong, but dislike is fair enough.

Issue is GW does obviously have to give decently balanced rules, but players themselves also have a certain responsibility to show sportsmanship and not abuse whatever advantage they can find. Brushing that responsibility of with "it's legal so I can do it" tends to result in a less than healthy community for your game. Also it can then result in overcorrecting of the rules (see rule of one, or the range limitations) where genuine use-cases get nerfed into oblivion just to keep the abusers in check. And, especially in a living game like this, the designers will keep track of popular playstyles. If a large amount players starts using a certain playstyle cuz it's overpowered nonsense, or to counter said nonsense, the designers might mistakingly come to the conclusion people find this playstyle"fun" instead of noticing that they are forced into the playstyle since the overpowered nonsense dictates the meta. This in turn can have massive consequences on the long-term state of the game as they start introducing similar mechanics.

also as far as I understood it this tau strategy was particulairly nasty and even it's weaknesses were terribly difficult to take advantage off. Unlike say a shadowstrike host where it's fairly easy to take advantage of it's weaknesses (it has 0 staying power consisting of fodder and class cannons)

 

Sadly, that's probably impossible. The designers are only mere humans, and quite a lot of these issues won't become noticeable until after playing for a while. Fortunatly it doesn't require much social aptitude to avoid abusive lists there's a couple of easy rules of thumb that allow you to tell quite easily if you're playing one of them:

1) Would you enjoy playing against this playstyle yourself?
2) Are there more than a handfull of genuinly different playstyles that counter yours?
3) Does your opponent actually get to interact with key-parts of your playstyle and activly do things to counter it? (e.g. Does he get to shoot at our slann to stop our summoning or is the slann untouchable?)
4) Are your games (against an equal opponent) reasonably close games that stay interesting till the end with at least a little bit of back and forth?
5) Does your advice for "counterplay" consist of something more helpfull than "just kill it", "avoid it at all costs" or "play nigh perfectly"?

If the anwser to any of those questions is no you're probably using something that is at least questionable. Also, do bear in mind that the anwsers to these questions might change depending on the level you're playing at as well as the game-mode. For example, a thunderquake is completly fine in large games, but questionable to say the least in smaller games.

The only issue with these question is that certain players will bend over backwards to justify their own playstyle. Or otherwise have blindspots regarding these questions, which can lead to some quite stupid claims regarding how easy it is to "counter" their prefered playstyle or how they'd totally enjoy being crushed within moments.

 

^^^ that is a pretty good rule of thumb.

 

Basically Coeddil.

 

Spoiler: Matching tune

 

it's very matrix-y looks a bit weird for 40K

 

I thought that, what’s the bullshit lore they’ve created to push this?

 

A kind of covert ops dreadnought that doesn't rely on the pilot being a cripple, I guess.

 

Isn't it also hell to be a dreadnought? Seems nice to have a (semi)dreadnought that doesn't require you essentially torture the marine inside

 

That's been one explanation for why they put dreadnoughts to sleep when not in use. The space marine inside is generally little more than a damaged head and torso, kept alive by being hooked up with all manner of cables and hoses, suspended in an amniotic fluid-like substance within their armoured sarchophagus, and their only real contact with the outside world is through a mind impulse unit.