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Blog Aginor's Painting Blog

Ok here it is. Keep in mind this is a very rough first test. But I think it looks promising.

In the upper right corner is the unpainted material, then (clockwise) orange, blue, and red.
I applied quite a lot here for the color test, I guess normally you would probably apply a bit less.
The coolest thing is that you can make as much as you like in the colors you like.

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Hold on, I don't quite get what you did... You painted stuff to get the orange, blue, red? The grass in the top right, can you do a larger base of it so I can see what it is?
 
Ritual said:
Hold on, I don't quite get what you did... You painted stuff to get the orange, blue, red? The grass in the top right, can you do a larger base of it so I can see what it is?
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Ok maybe I wrote some stuff badly understandable, let me quickly re-iterate over it:


The grass is regular Noch #07104 electrostatic grass, this one: https://www.noch.com/en/wild-grass-bright-green-6-mm-07104.html

The stuff I applied as flower petals is this: https://www.noch.com/en/scatter-material-flower-meadow-08400.html

I painted the #08400 scatter material by basically mixing it with a drop of my Army Painter acryllic paint.

Then I put some PVA on the finished grass and touched the PVA drops with the painted #08400 scatter material.

So the top right corner is just the #07104 with the unpainted #08400 on top, in the middle of the base (or on all my other grass bases in the blog) you can see the grass without the #08400.
The other corners are the differently painted #08400.
 
Ah, that makes a lot more sense. Somehow I thought you had pre-made flock with flowers... Was wondering how you got it to stand up.

Pretty cool, might have to investigate this...
 
Ritual said:
Ah, that makes a lot more sense. Somehow I thought you had pre-made flock with flowers... Was wondering how you got it to stand up.

Pretty cool, might have to investigate this...
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Flockbox is amazing
 
Aginor said:
Noch sells pre-made flower fields but those are mats.
They also sell tufts but ~60 pieces (three colors usually so 20 each) are 15€ or so. Which is too restricted and too expensive IMO.
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I just cut the flower tufts in half to make them smaller and go further.
 
The ones I get on eBay are way cheaper than that and always come out looking nicely. I chop them into bits sometimes too.
 
Yeah of course there are cheaper tufts around. I haven't done the math properly but with the bag of that stuff being <2€ I think it could still be worth it, especially if you can use cheap house paint for the colors.

But I think the biggest advantage is placing them on bigger grassy surfaces. No glueing them in, just touching the spots you want to place flowers with a brush of PVA and then with the right color of petals.

If you have a rocky base and just want a few tufts then making them yourself probably isn't worth it even though the material is cheap as well.
50g of that gras is <8€ and you can make a few hundred tufts with that (using a plastic bag, drops of PVA glue on there, and the flock box). I've done that myself as well.
It may be cheaper if you need a LOT of grass tufts (several hundred) with a broad range of colors.
 
That bag of stuff for under 2 bucks is a bargain, there seems to be a ton of it in there.
 
Ok I tried the yellow again and it worked. The trick was to use some white first, wait two minutes and then put the particles into the yellow. With a thicker yellow paint it will work without that step in between but I was too lazy to get one. :D

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That Bastilodon looks AMAZING! Also congratulations on purchasing an airbrush.
 
Aginor said:
Ok here it is. Keep in mind this is a very rough first test. But I think it looks promising.

In the upper right corner is the unpainted material, then (clockwise) orange, blue, and red.
I applied quite a lot here for the color test, I guess normally you would probably apply a bit less.
The coolest thing is that you can make as much as you like in the colors you like.

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This may be a silly question, but how did you get the grass to stick up??

What I mean is, the only 'grass flock" I have seen in stores just comes in a big bag of little blades of grass. It looks ok when spread on a base, but it gives the effect that all the grass is flattened down and lying at all sorts of weird angles. The effect would work better for hay than for grass. :meh:

Do the grasses you use come in little clumps or something?
 
Itepixcauh said:
That Bastilodon looks AMAZING! Also congratulations on purchasing an airbrush.
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Thank you!
Warden said:
This may be a silly question, but how did you get the grass to stick up??

What I mean is, the only 'grass flock" I have seen in stores just comes in a big bag of little blades of grass. It looks ok when spread on a base, but it gives the effect that all the grass is flattened down and lying at all sorts of weird angles. The effect would work better for hay than for grass. :meh:

Do the grasses you use come in little clumps or something?
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The trick is: I use an electrostatic device. I use one manufactured by Noch, which is called the "Grassmaster" but you can also build a DIY version cheaply.
In this video you can see how it works, it basically shoots the fibers into the PVA glue along electromagnetic field lines.
 
I should add it works a bit differently for wargaming purposes.
You cannot put a nail into your bases so the trick I use is getting a sheet of aluminium foil and attaching the clamp to that. Then I put the base of the model near it.
 
Aginor said:
Ok I tried the yellow again and it worked. The trick was to use some white first, wait two minutes and then put the particles into the yellow. With a thicker yellow paint it will work without that step in between but I was too lazy to get one. :D

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That looks brilliant!
 
Aginor said:
Thank you!


The trick is: I use an electrostatic device. I use one manufactured by Noch, which is called the "Grassmaster" but you can also build a DIY version cheaply.
In this video you can see how it works, it basically shoots the fibers into the PVA glue along electromagnetic field lines.
Click to expand...

Aginor said:
I should add it works a bit differently for wargaming purposes.
You cannot put a nail into your bases so the trick I use is getting a sheet of aluminium foil and attaching the clamp to that. Then I put the base of the model near it.
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:wideyed: That is amazing. My mind is pretty blown, I had no clue this was a thing.

If you ever do this again please take some in-progress pics so I can see your setup.
 
Warden said:
:wideyed: That is amazing. My mind is pretty blown, I had no clue this was a thing.

If you ever do this again please take some in-progress pics so I can see your setup.
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Sure! I do that grass stuff all the time, I'll just take some pictures of each stage next time for a little tutorial. :)
 
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