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Blog Ritual's Army - Lizard on Lizard Action (For the Waaaaagh!)

Crowsfoot said:
Looks cool, I really like the beetle and the leaves, they add a nice spot colour, glowing eyes are cool as well.

We were talking about Warhammer world last night and I think were going down for 3 days in October, better start saving.
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Depending when it is I may be able to pop up for a game, depending on how long you were planning on being there
 
Ritual said:
Depending when it is I may be able to pop up for a game, depending on how long you were planning on being there
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Just waiting to find out Archie's holidays then will look at dates, but we are planning on trying to play for 2 days, if I can book the table.
 
Crowsfoot said:
Just waiting to find out Archie's holidays then will look at dates, but we are planning on trying to play for 2 days, if I can book the table.
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Tables are normally pretty easy to get so long as you book at least a week or so in advance and there's no tournaments or school events on that day. Drop them an email as soon as you know the dates and let me know so I can try and wing it with the wife.... Though we're going to Ireland for a wedding at some point, so hopefully it wont clash.
 
Ritual said:
Tables are normally pretty easy to get so long as you book at least a week or so in advance and there's no tournaments or school events on that day. Drop them an email as soon as you know the dates and let me know so I can try and wing it with the wife.... Though we're going to Ireland for a wedding at some point, so hopefully it wont clash.
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Will do bud ;)
 
@Ritual

After you attending the Eavy metal weekend I have youtubed and googled a few things and I see what you mean when you said "forget everything"

I've picked up a few tips already and although it is aimed at display models I think once incorporated the tips will help with basic troops.
 
Various Tips & Hints from the 'Eavy Metal Masterclass

These tips are in no particular order, I'm just brain dumping everything I can recall right now.

- Mix the paints. All the time. Have a base colour you mix up and down into shades and highlights. Keep a note of what you mix. Don't just use a colour right out the tube, it'll never look right.

- Thin your paints way more than you are now. Forget 2 thin coats, think 4, 5, 6+ thin coats to build up that solid and smooth effect. Do not paint another layer until the one below is PROPERLY dry, you will cause texture in the paint, it might not show up straight away, but once you've accentuated it over the next 20+ layers it will be very prominent.

- Soft shading your shapes before you start working on properly shading and highlighting will help you in guiding where to paint.

- Always use a brighter base colour than you think you need, after shading them down it will always look darker anyway, and it makes life easier when you need to bring colour back into things without them looking washed out.

- You can get contrast into models in loads of ways, not just complimentary colours. You can use different hues of a colour, e.g. if your model is mostly muted greens, you could use a really intense green. That's still contrast.

- The eye has more colour receptors for blue than it does any other colour. It has the least to yellow. That's why yellow can be such a bitch to get right, the second another colour taints it it becomes very obvious. For that reason, consider your blues and yellows carefully. A low vibrancy yellow will often look bad next to... basically anything. A highly vibrant blue next to a muted colour will also look more out of place than if you had a high vibrancy different colour.

- Use source images. All the time. Google stuff, get a folder of images for textures, things, different lighting, times of day, etc. etc. No source images for dinosaurs you say? Use lizards. Snakes. Elephants.

- Look at 2D traditional painting. You'll see a lot of interesting tricks.

- Glazing colour back into things once they're shaded is easy. Thin down your base colour to the point where its basically off coloured water and then glaze that over - NOT A WASH (learn how to glaze, seriously) - and this will bring vibrancy and colour back to a shaded/highlighted area without too much loss of gradient.

- When you think you have highlighted something enough, go back and add another highlight.

- CONTRAST. ALL OF IT ALL OF THE TIME.

- Wherever two different things meet, you should have some kind of keyline/shading, e.g. where armour meets skin, hair meets skin, banner cloth meets banner pole etc. etc.

- Get good brushes. W&Ns7 are good, but their quality recently isn't as great, Rosemary & Co do a miniatures range that I will try out next.

- Use one brush for mixing and another for actually painting. You don't want to get paint in the ferule of your decent brushes, ever, at all.

- Seriously. Glazes. Glazes.

- Learn about colour theory. As much as you can. Get books. Read articles. Look at pictures.

- Seriously. Colour theory. Colour theory. Colour theory in practise.
 
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Ritual said:
- Get good brushes. W&Ns7 are good, but their quality recently isn't as great, Rosemary & Co do a miniatures range that I will try out next.
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Strange you say that about W&Ns7

I thought my size 4 was a counterfeit (bought on ebay) it was that poor, bought 2 more from an online art retailer that seem better so far.
 
Crowsfoot said:
Strange you say that about W&Ns7

I thought my size 4 was a counterfeit (bought on ebay) it was that poor, bought 2 more from an online art retailer that seem better so far.
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Size 4?! What are you painting? A house?!

But yeah, they're hit and miss right now for some reason. Definitely going to try something else next. Need to replace mine after pay day, they've had a hell of a battering this year.
 
Ritual said:
Size 4?! What are you painting? A house?!

But yeah, they're hit and miss right now for some reason. Definitely going to try something else next. Need to replace mine after pay day, they've had a hell of a battering this year.
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Haha, I have 4 down to 000

I use 1 and 00 the most
 
Crowsfoot said:
Haha, I have 4 down to 000

I use 1 and 00 the most
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I use 1 for basically everything... I generally go for 00, 0 or 1... I have a 2 and 3 as well I think, but barely ever touch them.
 
@Ritual

Did the Eavy metal crew give you an indication as too how many hours they spend on a model?
 
Crowsfoot said:
@Ritual

Did the Eavy metal crew give you an indication as too how many hours they spend on a model?
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A project generally lasts 4-6 weeks and is split between the 10 eavy metal members, that could be painting the models for the photos on boxes of a release, etc. So it could take one person 6 weeks ot paint a unit of 10 models at 40 hours a week, plus they over time basically every weekend to get stuff done.

A huge amount of time. Basically.
 
Ritual said:
A project generally lasts 4-6 weeks and is split between the 10 eavy metal members, that could be painting the models for the photos on boxes of a release, etc. So it could take one person 6 weeks ot paint a unit of 10 models at 40 hours a week, plus they over time basically every weekend to get stuff done.

A huge amount of time. Basically.
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Well that makes me feel a lot better about trying to improve, if you would have said they can knock a display quality model out in a week!
 
Crowsfoot said:
Well that makes me feel a lot better about trying to improve, if you would have said they can knock a display quality model out in a week!
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Some of them can, Aiden's Artemis that was in White Dwarf recently was done in a week of spare time and is GD quality. It's certainly do-able with the right model and enough practise.
 
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